xLiaaamx Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I'd say with Emery what happened helped us dodge a bullet. He clearly wasn't of the mental strength needed if a bit of paper talk scared him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bompeter said: I can't see this happening and don't really buy the idea that Trippier is keen. Why would he give up being a starter for Simeone to get involved in a potentially turgid relegation battle? I would imagine he's homesick. It does happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Trippier is starting a match for A.Madrid in 5 minutes, it’s clearly not that imminent. Fair comment. He could just as easily say his goodbyes and hop on a plane tonight after the match like. I think we are going to have to accept leaks, and not necessarily assume it's our side doing it. It's in the other parties interest to leak this stuff you would imagine so to rustle up other suitors/more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: People need to stop turning this place into RAWK and seeing any sort of questions asked as criticism that isn’t allowed. People are rightly concerned the consortium has again been pushing this deal in the media, despite it not being as close as reported. ”No red flags” ”Emery coming in within 24 hours” Their track record on this is poor. They need to cut it out. I think this deal will ultimately happen, but it’ll be another unnecessary embarrassment if we fuck about too much and someone else nips in for him. They're gonna make mistakes, still learning how to run a club - this is all new to them. I'm fine with that personally. Edited January 2, 2022 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 17 hours ago, Joey Linton said: Can never decide with Edwards whether he's telling us something because it's going to happen or whether he's telling us so he can say they messed it up when it doesn't happen. Have decided on the second option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: People need to stop turning this place into RAWK and seeing any sort of questions asked as criticism that isn’t allowed. People are rightly concerned the consortium has again been pushing this deal in the media, despite it not being as close as reported. ”No red flags” ”Emery coming in within 24 hours” Their track record on this is poor. They need to cut it out. I think this deal will ultimately happen, but it’ll be another unnecessary embarrassment if we fuck about too much and someone else nips in for him. Respectfully, the flaw in your premise is that it's definitely the owners briefing the likes of Hope and Edwards. Also, if you remember the full fallout from Emery it turned out he changed his demands at the last second and essentially went against an agreed deal and used his contacts -some of whom have vested interests in the middle east- to push stories about how annoyed he was at them going early. It's very easy to paint Staveley as incompetent or full of bluster because of her failed takeovers in the past and because she's a woman in football. I don't rule out that they're still treating these deals like traditional business deals and seeing the final details as inconsequential, but I also think she's been the victim of some bad faith reporting and assumption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Trippier is starting a match for A.Madrid in 5 minutes, it’s clearly not that imminent. As I said, I expect we’ll sign him but the longer it goes on the longer we give someone else the opportunity to shithouse in. Or, pick up a long term injury playing a game today. It’s unnecessary risk taking, imo. Said the same about delaying sacking Bruce (despite being called a bedwetter then too) and that has ultimately cost us already. Atletico don't want to sell him, from all reports it's Trippier who wants back in England. They are well within their rights to keep playing him until the deal's done. It could get done in the next few days for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: People need to stop turning this place into RAWK and seeing any sort of questions asked as criticism that isn’t allowed. People are rightly concerned the consortium has again been pushing this deal in the media, despite it not being as close as reported. ”No red flags” ”Emery coming in within 24 hours” Their track record on this is poor. They need to cut it out. I think this deal will ultimately happen, but it’ll be another unnecessary embarrassment if we fuck about too much and someone else nips in for him. What makes you think the consortium have pushed this to the media? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, NE27 said: Fair comment. He could just as easily say his goodbyes and hop on a plane tonight after the match like. I think we are going to have to accept leaks, and not necessarily assume it's our side doing it. It's in the other parties interest to leak this stuff you would imagine so to rustle up other suitors/more money. Not all of the leaks are necessary and/or helpful though. They should have learnt from the “no red flags” fiasco and then the Emery one. On all three occasions now, multiple journalists have been fairly open in stating it’s from our side. I get with transfers there are likely to be leaks, but the club seem to be talking up the deal at every opportunity to multiple journalists which is worrying if it’s not as close as suggested. As I said, it just leaves us open to looking very silly. 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: They're gonna make mistakes, still learning how to run a club - this is all be to them. I'm fine with that personally. Definitely agree and I think they’ll eventually get there. The only reason I’m so concerned is because it’s so important they get it right now and we stay in this league. I just think the mistakes have been too repetitive. I get why they’re doing it, they want to be open with the fans and keep a good line of communication (something we’ve been starved of before), but it needs to be better managed, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Better communications? Do you expect Amanda to give us a breakdown of what's happening every week? Christ this is mental. The new owners have communicated more than the last regime did in the space of a few weeks. Take a breather and look at the bigger picture, our next match isn't until 2 weeks.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Thiago said: Respectfully, the flaw in your premise is that it's definitely the owners briefing the likes of Hope and Edwards. Also, if you remember the full fallout from Emery it turned out he changed his demands at the last second and essentially went against an agreed deal and used his contacts -some of whom have vested interests in the middle east- to push stories about how annoyed he was at them going early. It's very easy to paint Staveley as incompetent or full of bluster because of her failed takeovers in the past and because she's a woman in football. I don't rule out that they're still treating these deals like traditional business deals and seeing the final details as inconsequential, but I also think she's been the victim of some bad faith reporting and assumption. Your last paragraph is weird, I’ve never singled Staveley out or suggested anything about her competence because of her gender. There are multiple people in this consortium who are likely to talk to the media. I also disagree with the other two points but have already made my views clear and I’m probably derailing the conversation again so will leave it there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Menace said: Better communications? Do you expect Amanda to give us a breakdown of what's happening every week? Christ this is mental. The new owners have communicated more than the last regime did in the space of a few weeks. Take a breather and look at the bigger picture, our next match isn't until 2 weeks.. You’ve totally misunderstood my post because your reply doesn’t make any sense in terms of what I was saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Player plays for his club shocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Your last paragraph is weird, I’ve never singled Staveley out or suggested anything about her competence because of her gender. There are multiple people in this consortium who are likely to talk to the media. I also disagree with the other two points but have already made my views clear and I’m probably derailing the conversation again so will leave it there. I didn't say you had, hence why I didn't ascribe it to you. I was speaking in reference to your initial point about 'people being concerned'. I think it's safe to say no one at PIF is speaking because, well, I doubt many of them are involved day to day. Then you're looking at the Reubens, but I'd be surprised. We know who takes care of things Monday-Sunday. You're entitled to disagree, but I'd urge you to look at how much flack she took during the takeover and yet she persisted, and it came to pass. I have been critical in the past as I'd heard some horror stories from contacts at Liverpool, but with us, she did get the deal done and she deserves even some semblance of patience. We're two days into our first window, months after our first managerial appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Fantail, I think you take the award for biggest over reaction of the year so far. Its the 2nd January ffs! Give it time. Edited January 2, 2022 by Scoot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Scoot said: Fantail, I think you take the award for biggest over reaction of the year so far. Its the 2nd January ffs! Give it time. Do you not rival me for the biggest over reaction, to my over reaction, as it’s only the 2 January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Do you not rival me for the biggest over reaction, to my over reaction, as it’s only the 2 January? If we don't get who we need this window I'll be joining you, but not yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just come off injured. FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 it’s going to be a mental January and we aren’t going to sign every single player we seriously chase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Can see he is wearing a black and white shirt underneath if you zoom in. It's happening at full time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Digne started today. Presume we are not getting him by the logic of some. ??? Edited January 2, 2022 by Slim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Slim said: Digne started today. Presume we are not getting by the logic of some. ??? No he didn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Sorry back in the squad. Ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said: That's the most RAWK thing out of it all. Taking every counter-point as criticism. You've actually quoted someone making a fair point...and started firing "turning this place into RAWK! Wah!". What rawk BTW? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Gazzaschicken said: What rawk BTW? The Liverpool forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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