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13 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

I’d be fairly pissed off if I was Botman reading those quotes today. Regardless of what happens, the manager must always shield blame from a player unless it’s something absolutely mental.

 

If you'd get pissed off by that small remark you must have an incredibly thin skin, which I doubt is the case in Botman.

 

Also blows the "sack all the medical people"-brigade that came out the woodwork when his injury was announced clean off. Seems the medical team at the club were entirely in the right, so kudos to Howe for that bit of information.

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I don't want to live in a world where an employer can force an employee to have surgery against their wishes.

 

No blame to be apportioned here.  He got advice, he took a chance, it didn't pay off.

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Wonder if long term, the damage is now done with the relationship between player and club? Asset now depreciating in value, not helped this season, not going to help next season. If we invest in a long term LCB in summer, doubt Botman when he comes back would be content being a back up if he wants to push for a World Cup 26 place.

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4 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Wonder if long term, the damage is now done with the relationship between player and club? Asset now depreciating in value, not helped this season, not going to help next season. If we invest in a long term LCB in summer, doubt Botman when he comes back would be content being a back up if he wants to push for a World Cup 26 place.

I think we would buy a new defender even if he was fit

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Some advised surgery, some said he'd be OK to play through, player made a choice to play through. Don't see why it's such a big issue. 

 

Sometime Drs advise to turn off life support, family refuse and the patient recovers. I know Drs are highly qualified, but they're not always right. 

 

He and we took a risk, it didn't work out. It's s a shame, but it's not a reason to overly criticise anyone. If he had had the surgery initially we would have had times where we could have had 1 of our 1st choice back 5 playing as well

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30 minutes ago, M1tche said:

 

He and we took a risk, it didn't work out. It's s a shame, but it's not a reason to overly criticise anyone. If he had had the surgery initially we would have had times where we could have had 1 of our 1st choice back 5 playing as well


We didn’t take the risk though, he did, with highly likely the view of wanting to play at Euros. Now we lose him for next season, after being hampered this season by not having him for large part.

 

Having only one available of back 5 shouldn’t play a part either, as we should always be looking long term. 

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9 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


We didn’t take the risk though, he did, with highly likely the view of wanting to play at Euros. Now we lose him for next season, after being hampered this season by not having him for large part.

 

Having only one available of back 5 shouldn’t play a part either, as we should always be looking long term. 

I'd still say all parties took a risk. If all the medical people said he needed an op, the club would have pushed him harder, because of the mixed information I think the club did all they could in this case. 

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