STM Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 My worry is that our transfer team are getting all the right noises from the players, without getting the right messages from the selling club. I want us to be as confident in us doing the deal, as we are in the player willing to join. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: £28 million according to Alex Crook (who I think broke the story). How high did we go on Botman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, STM said: My worry is that our transfer team are getting all the right noises from the players, without getting the right messages from the selling club. I want us to be as confident in us doing the deal, as we are in the player willing to join. Didn't do any harm with the Wood deal! (if you believe it was the chairman who sanctioned the deal) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: Didn't do any harm with the Wood deal! (if you believe it was the chairman who sanctioned the deal) Release clause made negotiations redundant. Of course the player would want the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Imagine having Carlos and Trippier on the right hand side of the defence and Clark and Ritchie on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: Imagine having Carlos and Trippier on the right hand side of the defence and Clark and Ritchie on the left. Would be like a football TIA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, STM said: Release clause made negotiations redundant. Of course the player would want the move. Hence my bit in brackets. Some journos saying we didn't activate the release clause, other journos saying we did. If we didn't activate the release clause, we managed to get Wood despite not getting the right noises from the selling club as you said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Imagine having Carlos and Trippier on the right hand side of the defence and Clark and Ritchie on the left. Clark should never play for us again and I don't mean that to be a cunt, just that we should make sure of his exit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, STM said: My worry is that our transfer team are getting all the right noises from the players, without getting the right messages from the selling club. I want us to be as confident in us doing the deal, as we are in the player willing to join. It's January, we're asking clubs to sell their starting players without much time to get replacements in. Clubs are not likely to be responsive to it generally imo. It'll take over the odds cash, or finding players clubs want rid of, or a longer conversation about the player moving in Jan for the selling club to be prepared. Its literally the worst time to do a rebuilding job. Edited January 12, 2022 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Without knowing anything about the deal it doesn't seem like it will be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: It's January, we're asking clubs to sell their starting players without much time to get replacements in. Clubs are not likely to be responsive to it generally imo. It'll take over the ofdds cash, or finding players clubs want rid of, or a longer conversation about the player moving in Jan for the selling club to be prepared. Its literally the worst time to do a rebuilding job. This. People need to realise that the media are paid for their ability to retain interest in a story. Every transfer, right now, is dependent on the selling team's ability to find a replacement. It's like buying a house. Lille might be more than happy to do a deal at a price that only us and them know. But they aren't going to leave themselves short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Alberto2005 said: Without knowing anything about the deal it doesn't seem like it will be enough. Cheers bud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: It's January, we're asking clubs to sell their starting players without much time to get replacements in. Clubs are not likely to be responsive to it generally imo. It'll take over the odds cash, or finding players clubs want rid of, or a longer conversation about the player moving in Jan for the selling club to be prepared. Its literally the worst time to do a rebuilding job. Yep. Plus this one has been further complicated by their other CB getting injured since our first offer. I don't know Kounde's age, but with Carlos being 28 it could work in our favour I suppose, they would probably rather get rid of the older one to maximise the fee while they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Without knowing anything about the deal it doesn't seem like it will be enough. going in with £1Biliion next - confidence is high that should secure him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 £30m or so would be a decent price for this guy. In the prime age bracket, guaranteed starter for his club and has Champs/Europa League experience. Seems a no brainer, if only we weren't struggling at the foot of the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) If taken on face value we bid 25m, they said 35m so we came back with 28m? Thats like my shite housing on fifa manager mode. We will end up paying 35 or the avatar of a fake Sevilla boss throwing his hands in the air, looking angry and storming out of the room lol Fingers crossed on this one. He reportedly wants to come, looks like a no nonsense, vocal leader which is what we need. Seems built for the PL. Rapid too. Edited January 12, 2022 by toontownman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, toontownman said: If taken on face value we bid 25m, they said 35m so we came back with 28m? Thats like my shite housing on fifa manager mode. We will end up paying 35 lol Fingers crossed on this one. He reportedly wants to come, looks like a no nonsense, vocal leader which is what we need. Seems built for the PL. Rapid too. I read it as they want €35 million and we've bid £28 million (around €33 million). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, toontownman said: If taken on face value we bid 25m, they said 35m so we came back with 28m? Thats like my shite housing on fifa manager mode. We will end up paying 35 lol Fingers crossed on this one. He reportedly wants to come, looks like a no nonsense, vocal leader which is what we need. Seems built for the PL. Rapid too. Sounds ripe for a nice meeting in the middle at £30m to me. Easy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Wonder if we can go in with the indication that we need the deal done before the Watford game and therefore this is the most they'll get out of us. Doubt that will make any difference now. No way will be here and signed by tomorrow, which he would have to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Interesting we’re back in for him. Wonder if we’ll go back in for Botman too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: It's January, we're asking clubs to sell their starting players without much time to get replacements in. Clubs are not likely to be responsive to it generally imo. It'll take over the odds cash, or finding players clubs want rid of, or a longer conversation about the player moving in Jan for the selling club to be prepared. Its literally the worst time to do a rebuilding job. Hence why it's been frustrating seeing people on this board say things like "why didn't we get this deal done before January?" "just pay more!" If it was that simple everyone would be doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Again, I am very suspicious. How would Mr Crook get to know that we have put a bid in today and also the price we have gone in with? When things break like this I want to ignore. Its only when things break like the Wood story that he was on his way for medical/fee agreed, that seem to have any substance. Unless Mr Crook has hacked NUFC email's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Same source Diego Carlos - Stats 21/22 | Transfermarkt tells me his market value is €45 million. Looking at a 3 year contract, At 28 that could go up [more likely in the PL] or down [he's not getting any younger], or stay the same [peak years for a CB] over the next 3 years. Based on that it's a nno brainer, even at £33 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dan Gleebals said: Doubt that will make any difference now. No way will be here and signed by tomorrow, which he would have to be. Wouldn't throw him into that game anyway. It is too important, we have to go with those that have prepared for it. Wasnt Edwards comment about having a defender in before Watford but not necessarily meaning in and registered to play. Not that we believe Edwards very often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Honestly think this deal would have been done if Kounde hadn't of got injured. It will probably still happen but might have to wait until they've found a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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