Guest HTT II Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, buzz said: I'm incredibly wary of thinking too soon about the summer given the huge hurdles we need to face to even stay up... but if we do, our marquee signings should be Declan Rice and/or Bowen from West Ham. Their fans are up in arms about the lack of business/pushing on and it's clear they're never going to be ambitious enough to actually keep either of them for very long. They’ll have far better offers than us, I think we are a few years away from signing those type of players to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix711 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: One of us these players mentioned would likely cost 80mill plus. I think our money is spent better on the continent to be honest. 100% agree. I would love Rice and Ward-Prowse but I bet Rice moves closer to Grealish's number ending up at Chelsea or Man Utd and Southampton aren't going to sell their most important player/ captain with a new billionaire owner. I only had Raphinha in my list because I rate him highly but did even say he might be pricey. If we want good and English, we need to look to the Championship and Brennan Johnson is my pick. Carvalho (Portuguese born but plays for England U19) is another good one but we can't beat Liverpool right now so he'll probably go to Klopp. And I know this might be a little disrespectful (I don't intend it to), but a lot of players on the continent come from poorer regions (South America and Africa) so will be high moved by money which gives us a better chance to land them against bigger clubs than us. Edited February 4, 2022 by Phoenix711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I’d love us to sign Ward-Prowse, but would we need him/where would he fit in alongside Bruno? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I think Raphina and Phillips would be attainable, but would cost 100m for the pair at least and we’d still face stiff competition. Them two would be immense though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 WP would work nicely with Bruno in a double pivot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 It’s been awhile since I saw him but I was never overly impressed with Ward-Prowse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix711 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Ward-Prowse is a cheap 5-10 goals a season (free kicks and corners) and a decent passer. I think Guimaraes outfield play is better but for a team outside the top 3, he'd be really useful. Does he fit with Guimaraes, I'm not sure. They overlap a bit, Romeu does the defensive work in Southampton's midfield but as Prophet has said, they could be a double pivot ala Kroos and Modric. He wouldn't be a priority for me this summer, I'd go after Forwards and Defenders and a Left back/ midfielder. Basically everyone but Guimaraes and Trippier to be replaced :P. Realistically I think we'll have £200m to spend (as long as we stay up), if we add on player sales, it might be £250-300m (that includes sponsorship and other revenue gains). If we get Dean Ashworth, I think he's fantastic at finding us gems that I'd trust who he brings in - he'd also have a much bigger budget than at Brighton so could scour higher prized targets, just hope we get him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) I think some of his usefulness is taken away when you have someone like Trippier who is also good at set pieces. Yes I know Ward-Prowse is better but if you have someone in the squad who is also decent on them, the benefit is minimised. I suppose it depends on whether we plan on playing Bruno as cdm or wide cm in a three, but supposing the latter I think we’d be better off going with one of Merino, Kamara, Tchoumeni, Kessie, or Tolliso. Have to say if it really is true we bid for Ruiz then that would be an absolute dream to have him as one of our options in the cm position. Edited February 4, 2022 by Rafalove Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: It’s been awhile since I saw him but I was never overly impressed with Ward-Prowse. I can't say I've ever really noticed him other than he takes a spectacular free kick. I'm guessing he must be quite decent at the basics without actually being that great at anything other than set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 He’s a very good accomplished midfielder for me, but does lack pace and as he gets older that may effect his game. He’s a very tidy neat player though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Hmm. I think they were bidding like it was the start of the summer window. That aside, the players they are targeting is genuinely mouth watering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonScotman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Interested to see how Folarin Balogun gets on at Middlesbrough always thought he’s got massive potential, would be a good start for us getting a few young home grown players in too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, buzz said: I'm incredibly wary of thinking too soon about the summer given the huge hurdles we need to face to even stay up... but if we do, our marquee signings should be Declan Rice and/or Bowen from West Ham. Their fans are up in arms about the lack of business/pushing on and it's clear they're never going to be ambitious enough to actually keep either of them for very long. Rice will cost over 100M and whilst he's great we can get better for a lot less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LRD Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Why would they want a player who is injured til at least March? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, LRD said: Why would they want a player who is injured til at least March? The source is Teamtalk it’s totally worthless. NUFC360 really need to start curating because some of the nonsense they tweet is too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Clark would do so well in the MLS. Liam Ridgewell became a legend at Portland ffs. Would love to see Clark end up in MLS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I've always liked Ward-Prowse. He's a good all-rounder who I think would solve the problem of who should sit alongside Bruno. Rice would be out of our reach, but I suspect he's already reached his level at West Ham, as a midfield player at least. He looks like one of those hybrid CB / DMs, albeit a very good one of that kind. He hasn't impressed me at international level, and I'm not sure that it would work out for him that well at top four level. I think he's over-priced, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Not sure he would be out of our reach. We’ve already been able to attract an incredible quality of player in Trippier who was a key component in a title winning team just last year, and would be looking to challenge for La Liga and the champions league last this year. Guimaraes is a player who could seemingly have got in any team outside Manchester City. We also had highly rated Botman and Carlos not just wanting to join but desperate. I think our pulll next year only increases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 If we survive, I think the summer window is a completely different ball game for us. We won’t have the hanging threat of relegation over us and this will enable us to be more positive in the types of players we try to attract. I think we would have a chance at someone like Raphinha or Ward Prowse as they haven’t really been courted by the so called bigger clubs like say a Rice has been. Also, the problem with Rice (who will probably end up at Chelsea or Man Utd) is that it will take £100m to get him and we could easily find someone just as good for half of that or even for free (a Kessie or Kamara) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, andyc35i said: If we survive, I think the summer window is a completely different ball game for us. We won’t have the hanging threat of relegation over us and this will enable us to be more positive in the types of players we try to attract. I think we would have a chance at someone like Raphinha or Ward Prowse as they haven’t really been courted by the so called bigger clubs like say a Rice has been. Also, the problem with Rice (who will probably end up at Chelsea or Man Utd) is that it will take £100m to get him and we could easily find someone just as good for half of that or even for free (a Kessie or Kamara) 1 more signing like Bruno changes everything. It will be in players minds that a Chelsea/Man City type thing is happening and they'll want in on it. It was there to see with Botman and Carlos wanting to come but players of that next level up will see it as well. It also affects transfer fees, in January we paid a double premium, our wealth tax and relegation threatened desperation, the latter wont be there in the Summer should we stop up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 A pre conteact agreement with Sule for the summer would be great business, take him over Carlos at stupid money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Bissouma is absolute class. Would be a no brainer IMO and very attainable. Need survival first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, STM said: Bissouma is absolute class. Would be a no brainer IMO and very attainable. Need survival first. Yup and add Botman & Sule we could play 3 at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Fkn Skirge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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