The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I don't think Chelsea have done much wrong. They've missed out on the 2 best managers in the world and are behind them both. Their previous model was a good one. But it has it's limits. Their model wasn't much different to Real's or Bayern's (although they mostly stick to Bundesliga / German managers). Assign a quality squad with some input from the manager but not total control. Get a top quality coach to lead it. Give it a few seasons, when it stops working - replace him with another top quality coach. Rinse and repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, St1pe said: I know I’m not the only one in here but I’m desperate for some new, reliable rumours today. I feel like ever since Ashworth came on board the ship has been tightened. No more business being done with us being able to follow along with every step. Feel like the next transfer we hear about it will already be at the 95% done mark before anything breaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I don't think Chelsea have done much wrong. They've missed out on the 2 best managers in the world and are behind them both. Their previous model was a good one. But it has it's limits. Their model wasn't much different to Real's or Bayern's (although they mostly stick to Bundesliga / German managers). Assign a quality squad with some input from the manager but not total control. Get a top quality coach to lead it. Give it a few seasons, when it stops working - replace him with another top quality coach. Rinse and repeat. The model was also “spend loads and have your owner bail you out” and then “buy a million players and loan them out, then sell them occasionally to keep balancing the books”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 True. They also have one of the best academy's in the world which helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: True. They also have one of the best academy's in the world which helps. I refer you back to my “spend loads” quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Academy that just buys the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, neesy111 said: Academy that just buys the players. To be fair. Most of the top clubs academy's do that nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 To be fair players who have come through their academy recently Mount, Chalobah, Abraham, James and Tomori had all been at Chelsea's academy for ages and were homegrown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Same with Hudson Odoi, Loftus Cheek, Connor Gallagher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Would be a bit disappointing to go into the season next week without any improvement in our forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, joeyt said: To be fair players who have come through their academy recently Mount, Chalobah, Abraham, James and Tomori had all been at Chelsea's academy for ages and were homegrown I meant more that Abramovich spent an absolute fortune on the academy set-up (for example, throwing money at Frank Arnesen to poach him from Spurs). Before 2010, they had won the FA Youth Cup twice, in 1960 and 1961. Of the 13 Cups from 2010 they have won nine and been runners-up twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Aiston said: Would be a bit disappointing to go into the season next week without any improvement in our forwards. Even this thread seems to be pretty dead. The rumours are all a bit random since Ekiteke, we seem to be getting different names chucked in every other day, but without much conviction. Like Julian Draxler for instance. I do think we'll sign at least one forward, but get the feeling it will be closer to the end of the window when the prices might come down and some options open up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Howe quoted on the Ronny Gill saying they'll look at the loan market, but its a bit early for that. Even then he sounded quite reluctant as "it doesn't give you, unless it's with a view to a permanent signing, the player's heart and soul". Surely that means Broja on loan isn't a priority as has been suggested by Douglas, et al? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Aye and it's really paid off. A Chelsea Academy XI would challenge for Europe. Can't think of any GK's though James Christensen Tomori Livramento Gallagher Rice Loftus-Cheek Mount Abraham Hudson-Odoi Plus Ake, Broja, Guehi, Chalobah's, Lamptey etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Howe quoted on the Ronny Gill saying they'll look at the loan market, but its a bit early for that. Even then he sounded quite reluctant as "it doesn't give you, unless it's with a view to a permanent signing, the player's heart and soul". Surely that means Broja on loan isn't a priority as has been suggested by Douglas, et al? Also contradicts what Waugh has been saying for weeks that we want Borja but only on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Howe quoted on the Ronny Gill saying they'll look at the loan market, but its a bit early for that. Even then he sounded quite reluctant as "it doesn't give you, unless it's with a view to a permanent signing, the player's heart and soul". Surely that means Broja on loan isn't a priority as has been suggested by Douglas, et al? To save your device getting AIDS, the full quotes were: "It’s definitely something we’ll look at. I’d say probably, at this stage, it’s a bit early for that I think. Loans I think, come a little bit later." It’s certainly something we’ll look at, it’d be foolish not to, because it can save you big money on transfer fees and long contract, but it probably doesn’t give you, unless it’s with a view to a permanent signing, the player’s heart and soul, unless it’s a very special player. We just have to get the balance right. I think it’s all about the individual really.” Edited July 26, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Also contradicts what Waugh has been saying for weeks that we want Borja but only on loan. Loan with an option is what I read. Not sure if it’s true mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Loan with an option is what I read. Not sure if it’s true mind. Option or obligation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Loan with an option is what I read. Not sure if it’s true mind. Makes no sense for Chelsea to go for it considering they don’t want him to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I still think we will get two very good signings Don’t know why , I just feel like the team in the background will ensure we strengthen regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: I still think we will get two very good signings Don’t know why , I just feel like the team in the background will ensure we strengthen regardless Same. Ultimately think we will end up spending around £30m on a RW option, then someone line Broja on loan (with a view to buy next Summer). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Makes no sense for Chelsea to go for it considering they don’t want him to leave If they didn't want him to leave they wouldn't be in talks with anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: Isn't that the guy who's notorious for not getting anything right?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, sushimonster85 said: Isn't that the guy who's notorious for not getting anything right?! There is plenty of them around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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