The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, TRon said: I think what makes it seem worse is that while all of the signings are very solid, none of them are going to make much of a noticeable difference to the side which finished last season. Botman is obviously a class addition, but our defending was on point even without him. Pope is an England goalkeeper, but Dubravka is a good keeper as well. Targett was here since January so is already part of the furniture. A couple of good forwards is what we need to complete the team and take us on to the next level. I fear the fans lose a bit of momentum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Nine said: 25 days since we signed Botman, some of us will be crawling up the walls soon feels like it’s been months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Even in a pre-blood/oil money world, it would be highly disappointing not to sign a starting quality forward in this summer, whether it be a wide player or a striker. Both were clear weaknesses last season, there is a spot now with Gayle gone, and ideally it would be time to eliminate one of Murphy, Fraser, or Almiron. I do not think it is unusual at all to be unnerved when it is nearly August and arguably the main target of the transfer window remains unfulfilled. Leicester, West Ham, and Villa are realistic teams to compete with this season and the quality in attacking areas of those sides is markedly superior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Segun Oluwaniyi said: Even in a pre-blood/oil money world, it would be highly disappointing not to sign a starting quality forward in this summer, whether it be a wide player or a striker. Both were clear weaknesses last season, there is a spot now with Gayle gone, and ideally it would be time to eliminate one of Murphy, Fraser, or Almiron. I do not think it is unusual at all to be unnerved when it is nearly August and arguably the main target of the transfer window remains unfulfilled. Leicester, West Ham, and Villa are realistic teams to compete with this season and the quality in attacking areas of those sides is markedly superior. We’ll sign one. Just how quality they are remains to be seen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Nine said: 25 days since we signed Botman, some of us will be crawling up the walls soon 700 years since we were linked to him though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, ponsaelius said: Even when Werner was in the Bundesliga it alarmed me that he kicks the ball in a very strange way. It was a red flag at the time and it has carried over to his time in England IMO. I don't agree with the comparisons to Bellamy who I think was a much better allround footballer - although probably less of a goalscorer. I like his workrate as a player but I just think it's astonishing he is on the kind of wage profile he is and that he's basically Germany's main centre forward. You keep repeating this, but have you got any examples? I'm assuming there are loads on youtube if you want to link them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Hard to sit here and bash a few Chelsea players who were all bought for huge numbers under Big Frank Lampard (a real shining example of a good, tactical manager) or even Tuchel. Yes they won the CL but I think many have rightfully pointed out they are hot and cold and they sign players with no real plan for how they'll fit into their systems. Werner was fantatic under Nagelsmann, where they played to his strengths and really worked with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Shearergol said: You keep repeating this, but have you got any examples? I'm assuming there are loads on youtube if you want to link them? I don't know. YouTube shows highlights so it will mostly be goals and probably less noticeable. You just need to watch him play matches. He misses so many chances because of simple bad technique in striking the ball. Very little finesse whatsoever - just hit it to get on target in any way. It's incredibly noticeable for somebody playing at such a high level. At Leipzig it was possibly less important because he a lot more instinctive finishes and/or he just got loads more clear chances in open space. Edited July 26, 2022 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 hours ago, 54 said: At least he admits he's just throwing names into the ring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Werner is a quicker German Morata! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Nine said: 25 days since we signed Botman, some of us will be crawling up the walls soon The one good thing about Djed Spence taking so long is that it’s kept some of our ADHD transfer guys occupied for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Nah Morata’s a very tidy all-round footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, The College Dropout said: Nah Morata’s a very tidy all-round footballer. Bit of a mess in the box though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, HTT II said: Werner is a quicker German Morata! Harsh on Morata. Werner's goal return in the PL makes Morata look like Haaland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakzz Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Segun Oluwaniyi said: Even in a pre-blood/oil money world, it would be highly disappointing not to sign a starting quality forward in this summer, whether it be a wide player or a striker. Both were clear weaknesses last season, there is a spot now with Gayle gone, and ideally it would be time to eliminate one of Murphy, Fraser, or Almiron. I do not think it is unusual at all to be unnerved when it is nearly August and arguably the main target of the transfer window remains unfulfilled. Leicester, West Ham, and Villa are realistic teams to compete with this season and the quality in attacking areas of those sides is markedly superior. This for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, snakzz said: This for sure. In a pre-oil money NUFC the market we would be shopping in is someone who'd keep us 15th-17th. We've already got those players. Helluva lot harder to get the players a couple of levels up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Maybe it was over ambitious but I had hopes we could start to close the distance on the likes of Arsenal. But now i'm more concerned about Aston Villa and not backsliding in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, The College Dropout said: Maybe it was over ambitious but I had hopes we could start to close the distance on the likes of Arsenal. But now i'm more concerned about Aston Villa and not backsliding in the league. I don't think we'll go backwards. Even if we don't sign anyone we've got a far better defence, Bruno for a full season not just half a season, could say the same about Joelinton actually since he only started after Christmas pretty much. Add even just 7-8 more games from Wilson than last season and there'll be progress from back to front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 The recruitment has just been so lopsided in favour of defence. If we get some decent forward players then it's fine, but otherwise you have to question why we went for Goalkeeper and Centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, xLiaaamx said: The recruitment has just been so lopsided in favour of defence. If we get some decent forward players then it's fine, but otherwise you have to question why we went for Goalkeeper and Centre back. Because deals we wanted were available for them. Much harder to get the same kinds of quality deals in the forward areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: I don't think we'll go backwards. Even if we don't sign anyone we've got a far better defence, Bruno for a full season not just half a season, could say the same about Joelinton actually since he only started after Christmas pretty much. Add even just 7-8 more games from Wilson than last season and there'll be progress from back to front. I think we had a lot of intangibles go our way in the second half of the season. Momentum, crowd, care free once safe etc. Can't guarantee that continues here. The defence looks solid but slow. Midfield lacks ability but plenty of graft, up front lopsided and little depth. Can Jonjo Shelvey keep up that intensity for a full season? Bruno scored more goals in less than half a season, than he managed in 3 years at Lyon. Is going to continue being a 1 in 4 goalscoring midfielder? If we go as-is, I expect a bottom-half finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, cubaricho said: Because deals we wanted were available for them. Much harder to get the same kinds of quality deals in the forward areas. Aye. Attackers are riskier and more expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, xLiaaamx said: The recruitment has just been so lopsided in favour of defence. If we get some decent forward players then it's fine, but otherwise you have to question why we went for Goalkeeper and Centre back. I don't think we're ignoring attacking areas though? We wanted Botman in January before Burn and he was still a goer so that was easy to revisit. Targett was another easy one, and we've been able to sign a top keeper for £10m. It's harder to get quality forwards but they're hardly going to just not sign those three because we've not got the forwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 We could easily see better performances from players we've already got. Fraser had a really good season for Bournemouth a few years back (about 20 goal contributions), Targett looks like he could probably improve going forward, Maxi showed more of a willingness to play for the team late in the season and Longstaff was looking solid. I don't expect every player to turn things around or improve but there will no doubt be a few we'll be looking back on in a years time in a different light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Chilax people, we will add attacking quality to the side. 3 more players to come in before the end of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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