Rich Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Looks very clunky, like. Clearly lacking in confidence and desperate for a goal, but he might've had one last night had he been picked out by ASM at the end. Still, he's only been dispossessed three times in three matches, won an average of 13 aerial duels per game (55% success), and is part of a nice little unbeaten run. He's also being asked to be a lot more involved in general play than he ever was at Burnley (~20% more touches per game), which is perhaps showing him up a bit in terms of his limitations. Probably a 4/10 so far in terms of overall contribution. He's here to score goals and needs to start doing so soon, but he's still nowhere near his levels of 2017/18, 2019/20, and 2020/21 in terms of xG per 90 (0.29 for Burnley this season and 0.30 for us vs. 0.46 averaged over those three seasons). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 He’s played like 2 games I don’t think anyone can judge him yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 hours ago, KaKa said: Yes, you are right, however for that outlay it's more that we could have done a much better job of finding a better quality forward. I think we over emphasised the premier league experience angle with him, which is unfortunate. However, he is contributing to us picking up points at the minute so no issues whatsoever. Any other player would have taken 2/3 more weeks to sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Happinesstan said: Any other player would have taken 2/3 more weeks to sign. Yes, absolutely. A very good point actually. As we had a very pressing need for a striker for upcoming games, and the release clause made it a very straightforward deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Feel like a goal will lift him. He’s going to get one, probs in an away game, and then I think he’ll be fine. We’re much better with him in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 There was a lot to like about his performance last night, particularly the way he occupies opponents and creates space, but he looks dire in front of goal. It's most likely a confidence issue given it's always been one of his stronger attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, loki679 said: Nobody is doubting his effort, he's just not very good and we could have done better for the price we paid. In that same time frame? With that same pedigree? We exploited an exit clause because we knew the majority wouldn't want to do business. We also have barely created chances for him. Give him a few headers or chances between the posts he'll get a few goals. 3 hours ago, ManDoon said: He’s pony like, I don’t see any argument against that. Simply having a body up front is likely helping us win games, but he is not holding the ball up or troubling defenders. He literally helped set up the second game. Edited February 9, 2022 by Thiago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) This thread has turned into exactly what I expected, people falling over themselves to justify his signing/contribution to the team because he can’t hit a barn door. As I’ve said, he’s done nothing so far that any generic big lump striker couldn’t achieve. Hopefully he’ll get better because we’ll need a contribution from him as players like Trippier, Fraser and own goals won’t go in every week. Edited February 9, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ManDoon said: By playing a five yard pass to ASM. “Helped set up”. Yes that makes sense. Scraping the barrel. Btw his replacement literally already has one more assist than Wood this season. He’s played two games. So yeah I think it’s possible to find someone. He also had a “header between the posts” last night. Completely unchallenged. Have you ever considered hes not getting chances because his movement is not very good?. It doesn’t exist in a vaccuum you know. When people start using “pre assists” as ways to defend players you know it’s over. No he played it to Joelinton, who played it to Maxi. The point is he's involved, he's not a passenger. Of course Weghorst has an assist. He and Wood are similar types of players, so the transition for Weghorst to Burnley is significantly easier than Wood to us. We're trying to play it on the ground and get it to. wingers that don't cross. I'm not using pre-assists to defend him. I'm saying give the lad a breathe to get settled and score goals because right now he's doing enough to justify selection. Yes, his movement can be better, but, so too could the chances created for him. Just because I can see what he's offering and you refuse to agree doesn't mean he's been shite. Edited February 9, 2022 by Thiago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Man’s talking about a 5 yard pass to joelinton, as if it’s contributed somehow lol. It’s madness. I’d expect someone off the forum to make that pass. Pre-pre assists being used man. Unreal to see. He's played three games. But sure you keep patronising someone that disagrees. At least I've kept civil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Did I say you can't? No I said you disagree. I didn't litter my. posts with 'lols' and going on about 'mans talking about pre-pre assists'. Let's just agree to disagree and leave it there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Is it not quite remarkable he’s only got 7 assists in the PL (147 games)? Would expect a target man to get quite a few, particularly playing regularly and almost always a guaranteed starter. By comparison, Mitro surpassed that figure easily in three years in a struggling Fulham side. Just a terrible signing really, but hopefully he’ll contribute enough (or those around him will) to not make it significant. Would be extremely concerned if he’s playing for us next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ManDoon said: “Just because I can see what he offers” isn’t patronizing? Righto Chief. If you want to debate the merits of Chris Wood go for it. It frankly isn’t worth it to me. 0 assists 0 goals. He’s a striker. Just the 22 posts from you in this thread in the last 16 hours, come on man. He's been pretty fucking poor so far, even his #1 fan can admit to that. I'd still rather have him than some big, unvaccinated Dutch wank that sounds like a sausage, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Is it not quite remarkable he’s only got 7 assists in the PL (147 games)? Would expect a target man to get quite a few, particularly playing regularly and almost always a guaranteed starter. By comparison, Mitro surpassed that figure easily in three years in a struggling Fulham side. Just a terrible signing really, but hopefully he’ll contribute enough (or those around him will) to not make it significant. Would be extremely concerned if he’s playing for us next season. There's no way he'll be starting next season. He was an emergency signing, and in no way will he be good enough beyond the next few months. But if we stay up at least it can be said it was a price worth paying. I'm inclined to agree we could have bought better though. He's struggling to control the ball at present, but tbh he had a decent goal return before this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 ASM should've played him in the 92nd minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Find it weird people are so desperate to be negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Find it weird people are so desperate to be negative. Being right > Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 My old man wants Gayle in ahead of him again. I'm being radicalised into not liking him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Find it weird people are so desperate to be negative. I agree with this 7 points from 9 with him in the team Defenders will be focusing on him whether he is effective or not, that in itself opens up opportunities from set plays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, ManDoon said: You can’t claim that is contributing to a goal. It’s a simple five yard pass. Joelinton does the work then ASM. How far back in play would you like to go, the pass before to Wood? It makes absolutely zero sense. The pass before Wood from Willock actually was pretty good. Everton were preparing for a cross and it caught them a bit off guard that left open space for Wood and Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiMagpie Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 hours ago, ManDoon said: Yeah I’m happy we are winning but it’s literally a case of having a body up there, he’s just not involved in our goals at all. Yeah same, I wasn’t expecting him to be great I think he’s a poor footballer but I have been shocked by how bad his touch and hold up play is, the ball bounces off him. Mate you need to watch the game again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiMagpie Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, ManDoon said: You can’t claim that is contributing to a goal. It’s a simple five yard pass. Joelinton does the work then ASM. How far back in play would you like to go, the pass before to Wood? It makes absolutely zero sense. You directly said he was contributing and used a pre-pre assist as a metric. “You can see what he’s offering” what a sage lol. I can too. Zero goals or assists, and poor touch. Weghorst plays nothing like Wood actually I don’t think you know very much about football, you certainly have a lot of opinions that would not need to be repeated 3 or 4 times if they were based on any knowledge about how football is played. I’d imagine you don’t play chess either, or be any good at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 He's been decent so far imo, just needs a goal to get the confidence going. Glad to see him (and the whole team) looking so happy after the game in that video on the club twitter. Would be easy for him to feel left out if he's not obviously contributing as much right away, but the whole group look really together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Burnley friend of mine isn't/wasn't bothered when they lost him He'll come good - score a few then probably see him on the bench/on loan next year if we stay up. Having said that his headers on goal so far have been bad (debut game and yesterday) and that was, as mentioned by others already, exactly the sort of thing you'd have expected him to be good at. The longer he goes on without a goal though the more I think fuck me may as well have kept Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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