STM Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Phoenix711 said: 18th + 1 point doesn't take you to 17th. 18th + 1 means 18th place + 1 point = you replace 18th place i.e. there are still 17 teams above you. So take last year, if you had 29 points (18th + 1) you would be 18th. You would need 39 points or more to survive. Are you a mackem? If you weren't one of the bottom 3 sides last year and had 29 points, you would have survived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 All of this is irrelevant Total points - irrelevant just need to finish 4th bottom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Yep 1 more point than 18th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, STM said: Yep 1 more point than 18th. Actually +1 goal difference than 18th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Anyway, this match. Start Lascelles and we riot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: Anyway, this match. Start Lascelles and we riot? I'd be very surprised if we doesn't start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Aye he'll start... Would be happy if he didn't but can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: All of this is irrelevant Total points - irrelevant just need to finish 4th bottom End of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Can't wait for Tuesday to get here tbh. My head is saying it'll be an entertaining draw which wouldn't be a disaster but another opportunity missed. A loss doesn't bare thinking about really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Everton have a good team and seem to have galvanized after Rafa’s departure. Really need a win but expecting a spirited loss. Massively hope I’m wrong of course (more so than any other game this season). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 57 minutes ago, Phoenix711 said: 18th + 1 point doesn't take you to 17th. 18th + 1 means 18th place + 1 point = you replace 18th place i.e. there are still 17 teams above you. So take last year, if you had 29 points (18th + 1) you would be 18th. You would need 39 points or more to survive. Ace posts, POTY and all that stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Both Everton and Villa are midtable fodder. Both better than us on paper, but the type of sides we're capable of beating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I'm as nervous as fuck about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Don't think I've ever waited this long for a game of football. Fuck me, it must have been about six year... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robster said: I'm as nervous as fuck about this. Yeah, can't wait for it....to get it over with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) This has a loss written all over it! Edited February 6, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Bricking it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said: Anyway, this match. Start Lascelles and we riot? He's our captain, of course not. Is Schar better? Probably. By a good margin? Probably not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Conjo said: He's our captain, of course not. Is Schar better? Probably. By a good margin? Probably not. I’ll riot on my own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) Not been this pumped up for a Toon game in years and this is the first time in a decade I’ve had to cancel our Tuesday 5-a-side because of a Newcastle match. This is how I feel now, these days: Oh, now feel it comin' back again Like a rollin' thunder chasing the wind Forces pullin' from the center of the Earth again I can feel it I can feel it Edited February 6, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Two more sleeps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Dr Venkman said: Anyway, this match. Start Lascelles and we riot? Nah. All our defenders pre-Howe lack pace and passing ability, but they'll do a job if called on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Phoenix711 said: 18th + 1 point doesn't take you to 17th. 18th + 1 means 18th place + 1 point = you replace 18th place i.e. there are still 17 teams above you. So take last year, if you had 29 points (18th + 1) you would be 18th. You would need 39 points or more to survive. Last year Fulham finished 18th with 28 points, Burnley finished 17th with 39. We were higher with 45. If our 45 was in fact 29 we would have been safe in 17th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix711 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, NWMag said: Last year Fulham finished 18th with 28 points, Burnley finished 17th with 39. We were higher with 45. If our 45 was in fact 29 we would have been safe in 17th You're looking at it wrong. You've taken a team who were already safe and put them at the bottom of the safe pile. Relegation is irrelevant to teams who are safe. You need to take a team in relegation and see what they need to be safe. So look at a team which is 18th, 19th or 20th and then what would they need to be safe? The answer isn't 1 point more than 18th (unless 17th had the same points as 18th), it's 1 point more than 17th or 17th's points with a better goal difference. Just look at us now, we are 19th and in relegation. We need to do whatever it takes to get to 17th which means we need to look at what 17th has got and add 1 point to be mathematically guaranteed (ignoring goal difference to keep it simple). 18th is technically irrelevant as you can see last year where 18th was 11 points behind 17th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 16 hours ago, cubaricho said: I know I keep banging this particular drum, but we have dropped 21 points from winning positions this season - before the transfer window too - so I think it’s safe to say that with the new boys we can win matches like this one. Howay the fucking lads y’all. "Howay the lads y'all" Got to be the official motto of the American South Toon Army. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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