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4 hours ago, TRC said:

Rumours are Palmer wants a move back north. Would he not be a big enough deal to sign?

 

Palmer isn't remotely close to the ability of Fernandes. You're not playing Bruno out of position to facilitate him. 

 

If he was available for a decent price I wouldn't say no though. 

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1 hour ago, NSG said:

Aye Bruno, Hall and Miley are my three untouchables. 


Gordon really has to stay for me, otherwise we’ll never be able to put together enough quality in the forward line. And selling your best attacker two years in a row smells bad. 

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Stole that from Redcafe, that‘s how they assess our situation:

 

Current state of play for Newcastle is that they are very likely not going to have any sort of European football next year and this is compounded by the issue that even with one of the largest stadiums in the PL their revenue is still only around half of that of the top clubs so under squad cost ratio or whatever rules we are going with for next season they cannot spend. The whole reason they don't have Anderson is because PSR rules meant they needed to sell the best young player at their club for 35M to avoid breaching the rules and getting docked points and they are about to be back in a similar position this summer after dropping out of the CL.

To make matters worse, they have a host of players that need replacing this year with several first team regulars now in their mid thrties along the back line such as Trippier, Burn and Schar and they also want to upgrade on Pope. Wissa and Woltemade have flopped so they need a new striker and there is genuine concern that Joelinton is breaking down because his game is based entirely on his physicality and it is catching up to him after 5 years of charging around like a lunatic, Joelinton has no real value if his legs go. 

The story that seems to be doing the rounds is that they recognize that in order to reset the squad they are going to have to sacrifice one of their star players and hope they do a better job of identifying replacements this summer than they did last. This is why you are seeing articles about the Tonali and Guimares camps lobbying to get a move now because they realize Newcastle are going to let one but not both of them go and they both want to be the lucky escapee. The problem with this is that the agents of both players are planting random stories all over the shop about the bargain prices Newcastle might accept and making up stories about clubs preparing bids. The reality is that Newcastle are unlikely to want to accept anything much short of 100M for either of them and for differing reasons neither is judged to be worth that by the potential bidders.

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32 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Gordon really has to stay for me, otherwise we’ll never be able to put together enough quality in the forward line. And selling your best attacker two years in a row smells bad. 

 

I don't think we'll have a choice, I think after his performance in the CL he'll want to be playing CL football and there will probably be CL clubs who will be in for him.

 

Tbh, of our saleable players he's the one I'd be least bothered about losing, he just doesn't turn up far too often.

 

 

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So according to that, we essentially have to sacrifice a star player due to our disastrous transfer window last summer? Cos that alone was over £100m down the swanny. Wouldn't be such a disaster if our income wasn't £100m+ short of the breakaway clubs. Feels like the consequences of the rules that essentially prohibit competition are really coming to the fore now. Our fans are going to have to slowly accept we're likely to settle as 6-8th placed club, and occasionally over-performing.

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1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

I'm not sure why you'd give any weight to someone spit balling on Red Cafe.

To grasp any morsel of negativity and run with it, his MO

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13 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

So according to that, we essentially have to sacrifice a star player due to our disastrous transfer window last summer? Cos that alone was over £100m down the swanny. Wouldn't be such a disaster if our income wasn't £100m+ short of the breakaway clubs. Feels like the consequences of the rules that essentially prohibit competition are really coming to the fore now. Our fans are going to have to slowly accept we're likely to settle as 6-8th placed club, and occasionally over-performing.


Both the stories I read about Howe and the back room team suggested we had money due to not spending in Jan. 

 

Granted not as much as the cartel. 

 

 

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Hmm, not sure. Personally always find the summer window interesting, except when our best player goes on strike of course. 

 

Do you not expect the stability in the exec roles to now help us do better with recruitment? Touch wood should be the first window since the takeover where we have people in the right jobs with some experience. 

 

Not saying it can't go wrong like. 

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22 hours ago, Big Geordie said:

It may also well be the case that NUFC are open to selling him. I certainly expect we may lose 2 or 3 'big hitters' this summer. 

Sadly if we restrict NUFC to the business side of things, I think you may be right. Last summer for super big money. Probably double what we paid and if he is open to it regardless of what Howe and rest of coaching staff want he may be offski. Wondering if I should do a ceremonial burning of my Tonali first goal celebration, showing the best midfield pairing we have ever had, or just put it somewhere I won’t see it until the sense of loss is gone. 

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If we're losing two 'big hitters', from an emotional POV  I hope it's Tino and Tonali. I have little attachment to Tino and it won't really bother me seeing him in a Man City shirt for good money. I like Tonali and hope if he goes it's in an amicable way, but I see him as a good pro, nothing like the attachment I have to Bruno. Losing Gordon with all our other striker issues would be worrying.

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I do think we underestimate how much protection Tonali offers us. I'm sure his ability on the ball would improve once the team finds better form and he gets Bruno and Miley (and/or new signing) back around him. 

 

In theory we could find someone for the role I guess, that young Spanish lad linked a while back sounded promising. 

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1 minute ago, Superior Acuña said:

If we're losing two 'big hitters', from an emotional POV  I hope it's Tino and Tonali. I have little attachment to Tino and it won't really bother me seeing him in a Man City shirt for good money. I like Tonali and hope if he goes it's in an amicable way, but I see him as a good pro, nothing like the attachment I have to Bruno. Losing Gordon with all our other striker issues would be worrying.

The thing with Tino is if he plays against us,  once he’s in the final 3rd we’d have nothing to worry about. Well the way we are atm probably but you get me. He infuriates me skipping forward into nowhere, doing nothing as he crosses the half way line. Also I just feel he is going to have lots of injuries over his career. (not scientific I know). But he’s the one I’d miss the least.

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I do think we underestimate how much protection Tonali offers us. I'm sure his ability on the ball would improve once the team finds better form and he gets Bruno and Miley (and/or new signing) back around him. 

 

In theory we could find someone for the role I guess, that young Spanish lad linked a while back sounded promising. 

His tracking back and breaking up of play is generally good.

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Gordon’s just a traveller, there’s a touch of Michael Owen about him. I wouldn’t be too bothered if he left.

 

We’d need more than him to go to reset the squad though. We need major surgery.

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1 minute ago, Novocastrian said:

Gordon’s just a traveller, there’s a touch of Michael Owen about him. I wouldn’t be too bothered if he left.

 

We’d need more than him to go to reset the squad though. We need major surgery.


How is Gordon like Owen? :lol:

 

I wouldn’t cry over it like Bruno leaving, but I think it would be a major blow to our attacking quality which would be hard to buy back. 

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