TheBrownBottle Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, sempuki said: Blame myself. As soon as I named my new puppy Bruno, he's turned to shit. I’m lending our dog, Jeff, to a Sheff Wed fan I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 One thing that I have noticed is, that he really has weird technique to strike a ball. I mean, he really very rarely makes long passes, and seems to take an age to load a a bit longer pass. He had a good shot against Villa, but seems like he can't kick the ball hard easily. Like Tonali who plays quick long one touch pass behind the defensive line or switches play to other side. Bruno always plays the shorter passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) If Tonali has played in that DM position for Milan and we know Bruno operates better playing further up, is that nit an option to entertain? There’s a clear gap between midfield and up front so we’re solely relying on your wide-men. We just lack that threat there and of course because we don’t have anyone particularly designated to DM, it just looks messy and unorganised. It’s definitely not an easy job when it comes to who’s name you put on that team sheet, but I think we really do need to look at other potential options we can focus on in our shape and player roles. Edited September 2, 2023 by Geordie Boyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) Swear Milan fans said Tonali was shite at DM. Edited September 2, 2023 by nemtizz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, KingArthur said: One thing that I have noticed is, that he really has weird technique to strike a ball. I mean, he really very rarely makes long passes, and seems to take an age to load a a bit longer pass. He had a good shot against Villa, but seems like he can't kick the ball hard easily. Like Tonali who plays quick long one touch pass behind the defensive line or switches play to other side. Bruno always plays the shorter passes. It's been evident for ages, but you get ridiculed by the masters. He admitted to his 'team' that his shooting was shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 In the latter part of the Liverpool game and day, both the opposition and the composition of the midfield left him isolated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Geordie Boyo said: If Tonali has played in that DM position for Milan and we know Bruno operates better playing further up, is that nit an option to entertain? There’s a clear gap between midfield and up front so we’re solely relying on your wide-men. We just lack that threat there and of course because we don’t have anyone particularly designated to DM, it just looks messy and unorganised. It’s definitely not an easy job when it comes to who’s name you put on that team sheet, but I think we really do need to look at other potential options we can focus on in our shape and player roles. Tonali has not played as a no 6 for Milan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, KingArthur said: One thing that I have noticed is, that he really has weird technique to strike a ball. I mean, he really very rarely makes long passes, and seems to take an age to load a a bit longer pass. He had a good shot against Villa, but seems like he can't kick the ball hard easily. Like Tonali who plays quick long one touch pass behind the defensive line or switches play to other side. Bruno always plays the shorter passes. He seems more lethargic in all his actions. I don’t know if stats (km run) could support that, but his conditioning seems worse than last season. I know his ankle was troubling him last season, did he ever have surgery / treatment on that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I'd play him dm as he ain't got the legs of tonali or joe to get up and down the pitch. In turn I think joe will get some form back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: I reckon there’s something up with him behind the scenes and his contractural situation. Or maybe he just worked better when he had willing runners around him like Longstaff, Joelinton and Willock. Not sure him and Tonali are going to work if we are playing an intensity is our identity style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, KingArthur said: Tonali has not played as a no 6 for Milan. He has. He’s either played in a defensive role or centrally in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Said from day one, an amazing footballer but not an athlete. Asking him to be your deepest MF is not working, once a player gets the wrong side he will never catch them. None of our three today wanted to run back, unusual for Big Joe, Tonali seemed to be the most attacking and Joe was fucked, so why play him. The mix is all to pot! That's Howe - and no I don't want him gone. This season is not a reward to last year's team, it's a new season. Earn it! Maybe all the Champions League and Amazon talk, and a few have dropped their levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Geordie Boyo said: He has. He’s either played in a defensive role or centrally in midfield. In a double pivot. Not as alone no 6 like a traditional DM. And again, I don't see Tonali being the solution. Even his passing stats clearly shows he is not a player for that position. Bruno's passing is better, but my god he takes too much time on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Oregon_Geordie said: Said from day one, an amazing footballer but not an athlete. Asking him to be your deepest MF is not working, once a player gets the wrong side he will never catch them. None of our three today wanted to run back, unusual for Big Joe, Tonali seemed to be the most attacking and Joe was fucked, so why play him. The mix is all to pot! That's Howe - and no I don't want him gone. This season is not a reward to last year's team, it's a new season. Earn it! Maybe all the Champions League and Amazon talk, and a few have dropped their levels. I'm not even sure he was "the" deepest lying. Seemed like they tried to rotate it and none of them got it right and for what it's worth him being the deepest lying worked for a season and a half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, KingArthur said: In a double pivot. Not as alone no 6 like a traditional DM. And again, I don't see Tonali being the solution. Even his passing stats clearly shows he is not a player for that position. Bruno's passing is better, but my god he takes too much time on the ball. Also playing as a number 6 in Italy probably requires a different skillset to playing one in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, madras said: I'm not even sure he was "the" deepest lying. Seemed like they tried to rotate it and none of them got it right and for what it's worth him being the deepest lying worked for a season and a half. He has zero recovery pace in that position and now we're being picked off in the pocket every game. Last year, we had Sean Longstaff and Joelinton chasing back to cover. To my point, Tonali seemed to be asked to not concentrate on coming back as much and Big Joe was not there physically today to bail him out. Someone has to sit. For me, Tonali should, at least he has a turn of pace! Feels like it's impossible to criticize a few of our players on here, yes I love Bruno, but he's been 6/10 since last Christmas and very very slow. Edited September 2, 2023 by Oregon_Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Oregon_Geordie said: He has zero recovery pace in that position and now we're being picked off in the pocket every game. Last year, we had Sean Longstaff and Joelinton chasing back to cover. To my point, Tonali seemed to be asked to not concentrate on coming back as much and Big Joe was not there physically today to bail him out. Someone has to sit. For me, Tonali should, at least he has a turn of pace! Feels like it's impossible to criticize a few of our players on here, yes I love Bruno, but he's been 6/10 since last Christmas and very very slow. Yeah, not enough of an athlete to be a 6, it’s a waste of what he’s good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Needs dropped. Out of form for months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) I’m not sure what the solution is. I will always trust that Eddie Howe will and understand why he perseveres. There’s no doubt both Bruno and Tonali have been huge signings. Of course I take into consideration the difficult games we’ve had to contend with so far, but it’s clear somethings not working and our heads have dipped. This is where Eddie comes in and I’m sure he will make a couple of changes not only to perform better, but to ruffle one or two feathers so everyone shows how competitive they are to play. maybe as a DM we could play Sch…..shhhhh, I think I hear something. Erm, maybe as a DM we could play Burn ! Aye I know it sounds shit, but he can pass, lacks the pace so he can just sit there in front and behind those who do have it. Maybe Longstaff who’s great at falling down and whining like a fanny to win a free-kick there. What about Joelinton, who likes to lose his shit unnecessarily? aye, I’ve got no idea Edited September 2, 2023 by Geordie Boyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Afraid other teams have started to figure him out. Under pressure he offers very little in our attacking play and is a liability defensively. Hopefully its just him being out of form, but its been going on for a long time now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, RS said: Needs dropped. Out of form for months He does, but we don't have the options. Other 2 need to be hooked before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 100% sure he'll be back to his best soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, nemtizz said: He does, but we don't have the options. Other 2 need to be hooked before him. Was going to say. Bruno is still undroppable for this team. I think Big Joe needs to be the first one out for now, unless Willock is back soon because the Gordon would have to give place imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Problem today was that we should have played two defensive midfielders and one infront of them. Brighton pushed up one of their midfielders(Gross) and that made Bruno have to mark two, or at times Burn to mark both Gross and Ferguson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 It’s funny. A few of us remarked he looked a bit slow when he joined and it became a joke because he was so good and aggressive etc. but like now…. He’s actually slow. But I blame the system and tactics more than anything for his and the entire midfields performances in the main. They’ve all looked off or done silly things but it’s the system in the main that isn’t working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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