OverThere Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Might be best to close the forum for a day some of the stuff on here is crazy town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Ah, back to having a go at players on social media. We're not going to handle any kind of setback well now we've only just had a small sniff of success huh? Sure this is all going to end really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: Ah, back to having a go at players on social media. We're not going to handle any kind of setback well now we've only just had a small sniff of success huh? Sure this is all going to end really well. Self destruction is the Newcastle way don't you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, Ash2579 said: One paced show pony nice guy, nice smile, but massively overrated! Still upset you didn’t beat Coventry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, Ash2579 said: One paced show pony nice guy, nice smile, but massively overrated! Just wow ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Yorkie said: I thought he was brilliant today. Then he went and did that. Staggeringly stupid attempt at a pass. Finding it hard not to be absolutely fucking raging at him like. ? It's strange cos this is exactly how I saw it, thought he was having one of his best games in a long time but then seeing loads of comments of people slating him for being poor Wonder whether we watched a different game or whether people have allowed the mistake at the end cloud their judgement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Sempiternal said: He’s repeatedly caught in posession in the exact same places, the exact same way at the minute. He was good at avoiding pressure, not sure what’s happened Teams are keying in on him big time in those deep areas. I miss him playing as a number 8 without having to do so much in those deeper areas. Still maintain when he was further up and Shelvey was deep, was when he was at his best. Wish we'd have got a more athletic rugged DM that could pass a bit, so that Bruno could just be further up not having to battle so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 In fact just watching that last goal back ... it's such a high risk pass to make from that position and at that moment. We really could do with a DM that doesn't take so many risks from that position. Great when it comes off but so dangerous and often costly when it doesn't. Really difficult to be too mad at Bruno because he has stated a preference to play further up, but it seems it's not something we're looking to do anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Yorkie said: I thought he was brilliant today. Then he went and did that. Staggeringly stupid attempt at a pass. Finding it hard not to be absolutely fucking raging at him like. ? Sometimes he just tries too hard - looking for the Hollywood pass. His brilliance when he first joined was that he kept it simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Having watched that pass back…fuck man. It was so unnecessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I remember a quote about Isak in the Athletic, think it was from a former coach at AIK, along the lines of "he doesn't get too high in the good moments or low in the bad moments. It's a good trait to have". Bruno definitely does not have that trait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 These new wum sign ups need looking into, plenty in the last 18 months lurking around, and waiting for days like today to pounce. Can spot them a mile away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: These new wum sign ups need looking into, plenty in the last 18 months lurking around, and waiting for days like today to pounce. Can spot them a mile away. Yup totally agree. We used to do the same to RTG until they locked it down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Yeah Bruno was excellent yesterday apart from that one stupid costly moment. It was his best game in 6 months. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 He was good yesterday, problem is A) he has no recovery pace B) he sometimes keeps the ball too long. You can clearly see he is not a no 6 in traditional way. it benefits us that he can play those nice passes to tight areas, but it would be more useful to have him higher and receiving the ball in tight spaces, winning free kicks etc. Still think our tactic with 3 box-to-box midfielders is not the best way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 He was much better for us further up the pitch when he first came. He was scoring and creating goals but we had Shelvey then who sat in front of the back 4 a bit like a quarter back. Maybe we should have signed a top more defensive midfielder to replace Shelvey and kept Bruno where he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: He was much better for us further up the pitch when he first came. He was scoring and creating goals but we had Shelvey then who sat in front of the back 4 a bit like a quarter back. Maybe we should have signed a top more defensive midfielder to replace Shelvey and kept Bruno where he was. Maybe try Joelinton as the defensive midfielder and play Bruno and Tonali in front of him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Tonali can sit more surely, I’d have him primarily as a 6 for now, I’d rather see him in those deep positions especially near the end of games when we need to be sensible which I think he would be. Get Bruno higher up away from our own goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Remember, Bruno came in and was the stand out midfielder and deservedly so. We now have Tonali and Joelinton in with him and that can take the edge of what people look for in Bruno and rather seeing all the good he does, one mistake can be picked out and amplified to the point of head scratching. Let's not do too much to make him feel like an outcast because these digs by some can escalate to a point where losing him may not be a favourable outcome. Take the good and the great when it's there and also take the bad when it happens because football is about hope not expectation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Toon No9 said: Maybe try Joelinton as the defensive midfielder and play Bruno and Tonali in front of him? This does not solve the issue when we have possession. Joelinton is a ball winner and an aggressive forward looking midfielder. We would need someone in the mold of Fabinho. Who can break up play, play the easy pass and defend the are in front of our back 4. When we lose the ball there is sometimes acres of space in front of our CBs. And that is because usually Bruno is not there, or he is the one losing the ball. A solid DM would allow our full backs to push up and wingers to come inside. Prime Cheick Tiote would be great there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Toon No9 said: Maybe try Joelinton as the defensive midfielder and play Bruno and Tonali in front of him? Joelinton also takes some time to get the ball under control, he was magnificent yesterday, but there are times when he gets surrounded and is battling three players for possession. You need someone who can get a hold of the ball quickly and move it before anyone gets close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Joelinton as defensive midfielder… Gordon on the right… Trippier or Livramento left back… We should be signing players for positions and not trying to shoehorn players around to make up for ingestion in the wrong positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, duo said: Sometimes he just tries too hard - looking for the Hollywood pass. His brilliance when he first joined was that he kept it simple. He seemed quite isolated at times yesterday. Couple of times he received the ball and there was nobody in black and white within 20 yards. Not a problem in itself, but risky when teams have targeted him for quick closing down. I like the fluidity Tonali’s roaming play brings, but I think they’re still learning to balance each other. Edited August 28, 2023 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said: Yeah Bruno was excellent yesterday apart from that one stupid costly moment. It was his best game in 6 months. Shame. Excellent? Man you must really like short safe passes in the middle of the pitch. Didnt create a single chance. Didnt win the ball a single time. Well below 50% success rate on passes that wasnt short and safe. Got dispossesed multiple times. On his one attempt on goal the ball went out of the stadium. Which moments of excellence did i miss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Wild, not one accurate through ball played all game by us. We had one through ball all game from Gordon and it's not been recorded as accurate. With Isak we need to be upping that number. Liverpool had 3 attempts and 4 accurate ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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