r0cafella Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, KingArthur said: We will not make Champions league anyway I would guess Burn takes Dummett's place as a last chance sub, Dummett and Lascelles are off. This season we won’t no. Next season I believe it will be the goal however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: This season we won’t no. Next season I believe it will be the goal however. I am not so sure about it. We will be challenging for places 4-6 for sure, but again, there are 6 teams that have hugely more money to spend and have already bigger and better squads. One CL season does not mean we are there every year, people have to be realistic with their expectations. Villa will come down next season etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 13 minutes ago, KingArthur said: I am not so sure about it. We will be challenging for places 4-6 for sure, but again, there are 6 teams that have hugely more money to spend and have already bigger and better squads. One CL season does not mean we are there every year, people have to be realistic with their expectations. Villa will come down next season etc. We will be hear 3/4 of the so called 5 year plan. That plan is to challenge for titles and trophies. The owners may close an eye on one bad season but if we were dragging a long at 7th this time next year I’m pretty sure changed would be made. and this is on the proviso the gaffa can get through this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: We will be hear 3/4 of the so called 5 year plan. That plan is to challenge for titles and trophies. The owners may close an eye on one bad season but if we were dragging a long at 7th this time next year I’m pretty sure changed would be made. and this is on the proviso the gaffa can get through this season. Naah, you have to be realistic mate. If our revenue is same as wage bill of the biggest teams, we are not challenging a thing. We were close to winning a cup already. Saudis are building a team and the academy totally from the scrap. Abu Dhabi bought City 2008 and they won first title in 2012 when they could spend all the money they wanted. It will take double that for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, KingArthur said: Naah, you have to be realistic mate. If our revenue is same as wage bill of the biggest teams, we are not challenging a thing. We were close to winning a cup already. Saudis are building a team and the academy totally from the scrap. Abu Dhabi bought City 2008 and they won first title in 2012 when they could spend all the money they wanted. It will take double that for us. Our revenue is increasing, our ambition remains the same. I’m not even talking about city or what they did as it isn’t relevant. (I’m not even sure how long it took them to win a league after the takeover?). The point is the plan the owners have laid out is challenging (not winning) titles in 5 years. If we are competing to conference league come this time next season I’m sure alarm bells will be ringing as it means we are behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) He’s decided to tuck in and mark our own Centre Backs whilst leaving his man wide open too often now. Positionally, he’s all over the shop and needs dropped, the benefit of extra height he provides is negated by the liability he’s become during open play. Edited January 2 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 20 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Our revenue is increasing, our ambition remains the same. I’m not even talking about city or what they did as it isn’t relevant. (I’m not even sure how long it took them to win a league after the takeover?). The point is the plan the owners have laid out is challenging (not winning) titles in 5 years. If we are competing to conference league come this time next season I’m sure alarm bells will be ringing as it means we are behind. It took 4 years like I said. If the owners want us to challenge sooner, then they would have need to spend money a lot more. Which they cannot, because FFP. At the the end of 2020s, we will be constantly top4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: If Burn stays, I think Lascelles has to be let go as well. Need to start getting ruthless I think. Burn 4th choice CB, 3rd choice LB pretty much replacing Dummett's role. I'd rather keep Lascelles tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: Our revenue is increasing, our ambition remains the same. I’m not even talking about city or what they did as it isn’t relevant. (I’m not even sure how long it took them to win a league after the takeover?). The point is the plan the owners have laid out is challenging (not winning) titles in 5 years. If we are competing to conference league come this time next season I’m sure alarm bells will be ringing as it means we are behind. Thing with Man City was that they essentially had a blank cheque - we don’t and have to comply with FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I don't think he was significantly worse than he's been usually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, Mikky said: Thing with Man City was that they essentially had a blank cheque - we don’t and have to comply with FFP Without a doubt, but we are just repeating the owners ambition here. Also I’m referring to competing for CL spots. not winning the league or CL at this juncture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 hours ago, TBG said: A fully fit Dan Burn has the pace to get back and make those two fouls and as a result I don't have a personal grudge for the rest of our lives. Other than Dan Burn, who do I complain to over this. Woke up fuming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 We'll be unable to consistently challenge until we start selling players for huge profits. Whether that's Kuol type players or academy players. We'll always be heavily curtailed by FFP until then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, TRon said: I'd rather keep Lascelles tbh. Burn's the one just given the new deal though so he'll be here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Burn's the one just given the new deal though so he'll be here. I suppose we can add him to the Ritchie/Dummett rah rah team then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 He was in no man’s land for their first goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 he seems to be spending alot of time coming inside and leaving the left wing unoccupied, I know he is a CB by trade but dont remember him doing this last season where is the drifting coming from? caliber of opposition? instruction? He also has come back slower than before the injury another great leader around the dressing room but shouldnt be displacing many in the starting line up if any at all once everyone is fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 He did it against Liverpool, too. Gave Salah so much space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 02/01/2024 at 06:36, r0cafella said: Our revenue is increasing, our ambition remains the same. I’m not even talking about city or what they did as it isn’t relevant. (I’m not even sure how long it took them to win a league after the takeover?). The point is the plan the owners have laid out is challenging (not winning) titles in 5 years. If we are competing to conference league come this time next season I’m sure alarm bells will be ringing as it means we are behind. Depends on what you mean by challenging for Conference places. If we are 10th looking for a run at the end of next season yes. But if we are in touching distance of top four most of the season and drop back into 6/7th, then I’d argue we are par for being 3 full seasons into a project. I think people need to temper expectations, I mean did yesterday not serve as a massive illustration of how far behind City we actually are as a club? It will take time to cement our position and there will be further bumps in the road. Especially given the deliberate road blocks ffp/fmv will cause us at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 02/01/2024 at 09:41, Optimistic Nut said: Burn's the one just given the new deal though so he'll be here. Not necessarily, that may be due to the fact we feel we can still get a fee for him. This isn’t Ashley’s Newcastle anymore. We will be renewing contracts to protect the club now, rather than because we can’t be arsed to sign new players. i also wouldn’t be surprised if Burn is actually an a relative pittance given the coming home emotional pull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Had a good game I thought with very little support defensively from Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Cracking 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Your man of the match. Daniel Burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I feel like once a month I learn of another team this big beautiful bastard has represented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 He’s been okay for a while after struggling when he first come back in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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