Unbelievable Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Stadium, first team, academy, women’s Over a time span of how many years. Seems odd to add to reported purchase price if you ask me. Out owners will no doubt spend that sort of money or more in the next decade, but the reported price at which they acquired NUFC will still (rightly) be reported as 300m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 15 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Suddenly realised that when we've been bemoaning the death of the game, some of us have been talking about different things. I fucking hate all that fan experience shite. The Germans have it right, that's the direction I'd want the game to go in. I just meant the experience of going to the game, being treated like a human being who deserves good customer service. Like I said, if you prefer the traditional football experiment that’s also valid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Over a time span of how many years. Seems odd to add to reported purchase price if you ask me. Out owners will no doubt spend that sort of money or more in the next decade, but the reported price at which they acquired NUFC will still (rightly) be reported as 300m. Very odd indeed. Like it’s being reported as a total all-in investment basis. Which to me, shows the inflated nature of this price. There isn’t anything Market about it at all tbh. A commitment of capital outlay in that terms being part of the price just seems like fancy / roundabout way to justify the enormous price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Unbelievable said: Over a time span of how many years. Seems odd to add to reported purchase price if you ask me. Out owners will no doubt spend that sort of money or more in the next decade, but the reported price at which they acquired NUFC will still (rightly) be reported as 300m. I'd guess because guaranteeing that spend is part of the conditions of the sale, so it is part of the price. Our owners could have bought us for £300m and not had to spend a single other penny on infrastructure or anything else if they chose not to. I.e. the £300m alone satisfies the seller's demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Abramovich was quoted £1bn a while ago to upgrade the stadium- this has been factored in as part of the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 When Americans take over Premiership clubs, I always wonder whether they've really digested how difficult it is to get a return on your investment, or just break even, and how big the risk is of losing loads. In their major league sports, there are all sorts of protection for owners - salary caps, draft procedures to ensure a more even distribution of talent - and more significant - none of the huge financial implications of getting relegated or losing out on Champions League places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 17 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Suddenly realised that when we've been bemoaning the death of the game, some of us have been talking about different things. I fucking hate all that fan experience shite. The Germans have it right, that's the direction I'd want the game to go in. Dilutes the atmosphere and attracts a different kind of fan, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobloblaw Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 12 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: The existence of those ‘fans’ are why local sporting institutions like football clubs now sell for stupid money. To most supporters who actually attend, ‘fan experiences’, shiny merchandise, etc are utterly meaningless because the pleasure comes from a tribal sense of togetherness, not because the club shop has shiny trinkets. Some of the best fan ‘experiences’ I’ve had have been in crumbling shitholes. Some of the worst in shiny superdomes. You’re in the place for a couple of hours, the vast majority of which is spent staring at a green rectangle. I’ve rarely been arsed about the fact that the half time bar is decked out to the standards normally reserved for upmarket restaurants. The tribal thing is why clubs in English football’s fourth tier can pull five-figure attendances. That’s how several clubs who have literally won nowt - ever - and don’t even have large supporter bases (Watford, Palace, Brentford etc) can be in the ‘majors’ whilst huge clubs with great histories and sizeable catchment areas can languish outside of it. The US is so culturally different, yet because it is anglophone many assume it is somehow more alike. I’d no sooner want to adopt the US sports model in the UK than I’d expect to tell the average American how they should change their sporting institutions. I fundamentally don’t understand it, and it isn’t really any of my business. This is why college football is the best US sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 College football is as close as tribal as you get here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 College football don’t pay the men out on the field who are risking their mind and bodies. Awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrovianmag Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Wonder if the rest of the PL have approved Chelsea's new £20m / year sleeve sponsor deal? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10808705/Chelsea-announce-cryptocurrency-firm-WhaleFin-new-shirt-sleeve-sponsors-20m-year-deal.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Crypto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Quote The deal marks Chelsea's first official move into the crypto market, weeks after Liverpool were linked with picking another such firm to replace their main shirt sponsor, Standard Chartered, and after Manchester United made a deal with blockchain group Tezos Shock that Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U have all went in on Crypto Con. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 08/05/2022 at 15:02, bobloblaw said: This is why college football is the best US sport. Can open.....worms everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Fucking crypto. Tanking all over the place. Hope these sponsorship deals go to shit and the clubs suffer big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: He’s right though. It’s the best by a mile imo. Well the US has always been a bit odd for sport.... Baseball....a fancy game of rounders Football (NFL, not real football)....Rugby with armour NASCAR...a faster version of WEC/Touring with cars that can only turn in one direction Indycar....F1 on the cheap Hockey/Ice Hockey....please Basketball...expensive netball, but can actually see why this might appeal Think having a higher population over there inflates the value of some of those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Well the US has always been a bit odd for sport.... Baseball....a fancy game of rounders Football (NFL, not real football)....Rugby with armour NASCAR...a faster version of WEC/Touring with cars that can only turn in one direction Indycar....F1 on the cheap Hockey/Ice Hockey....please Basketball...expensive netball, but can actually see why this might appeal Think having a higher population over there inflates the value of some of those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazy Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Ice Hockey is class imo It is like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobloblaw Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) On 12/05/2022 at 07:37, gjohnson said: Can open.....worms everywhere Nah, it's the best. First video is context for the 3rd part of the second video (the Iowa wave) that's for the team I support and where I went to school. Edited May 15, 2022 by bobloblaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Delighted that this lot win fuck all this season. Would be even more delighted if they dropped out of the CL places Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 6 hours ago, toon25 said: Delighted that this lot win fuck all this season. Would be even more delighted if they dropped out of the CL places Begining of the end if they drop out champs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Aren't they already losing £150m a season or something stupid? How can they sustain that? More to the point, how have they got away with it for FFP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 On 08/05/2022 at 12:47, Abacus said: I'd guess because guaranteeing that spend is part of the conditions of the sale, so it is part of the price. Our owners could have bought us for £300m and not had to spend a single other penny on infrastructure or anything else if they chose not to. I.e. the £300m alone satisfies the seller's demands. Does it help them spend that money without FFP coming into effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, loki679 said: Aren't they already losing £150m a season or something stupid? How can they sustain that? More to the point, how have they got away with it for FFP? Last accounts showed £145m losses, despite winning the CL. They’re only currently kept afloat by the fact they are “reliant on Fordstam Limited for its continued financial support” (from Chelsea’s own accounts). The company is owned by Roman Abramovich, and has indicated it will continue to support the club “for the foreseeable future” (whilst he still owns the club). Edited May 15, 2022 by Manxst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Manxst said: Last accounts showed £145m losses, despite winning the CL. They’re only currently kept afloat by the fact they are “reliant on Fordstam Limited for its continued financial support” (from Chelsea’s own accounts). The company is owned by Roman Abramovich, and has indicated it will continue to support the club “for the foreseeable future” (whilst he still owns the club). Right, but FFP allows losses of £105m over three years iirc so how are they not being slapped with transfer bans and points deductions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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