Kid Icarus Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Bit early for the pre-derby bounce isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Do you think fat sam would take it? Or is he just the type to expect a premier league job. With his ego the way it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 So these monstrosities actually expect to be in the promotion places. I reckon they’ll end up regretting this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, andycap said: Do you think fat sam would take it? Or is he just the type to expect a premier league job. With his ego the way it is. I'd be genuinely nervous about the cup game if they appointed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, andycap said: Do you think fat sam would take it? Or is he just the type to expect a premier league job. With his ego the way it is. That would be so delicious. He'd love another chance to rub our noses in it and bring up Casa St James. Unfortunately he seems to have dropped off the radar now, so as someone else said...it'll be a proper pfm or some random from abroad. I reckon it'll be Heckingbottom from Sheff U when he gets binned. Seem to recall he may of had a loan there when they were taking every man U reject/youngster they could Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, gjohnson said: That would be so delicious. He'd love another chance to rub our noses in it and bring up Casa St James. Unfortunately he seems to have dropped off the radar now, so as someone else said...it'll be a proper pfm or some random from abroad. I reckon it'll be Heckingbottom from Sheff U when he gets binned. Seem to recall he may of had a loan there when they were taking every man U reject/youngster they could He may look at it and think there near the top if he can get them defending well and a few transfers he could get them up and a nice payday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Good decision in my opinion, About time we were ruthless instead of just plodding along hoping something changes. Mowbray undoubtedly did a good job on the whole, Had us playing some lovely football but the chances of a Mowbray team getting promoted are slim. Rumours are the board wanted shot in the summer but they kept him on due to the performances last season. We had Farioli lined up and backtracked, He's got Nice absolutely flying. He was never a long term appointment, He was a stop gap for stability and to allow younger players to flourish. He's done that and it's all gone a bit stale, Obviously it's a gamble but it's one the owners think is worth taking in the next 'phase' of building the club back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I saw this documentary about an American coach who came over to the UK and worked wonders with an underperforming London club. I hope they don't go for him, he was a really nice bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 They were obviously shitting it at the thought of Mowbray trying to pass his way to a win against our relentless press. They'll look for a long ball merchant now to try and kick their way to a respectable loss in the cup game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: Good decision in my opinion, About time we were ruthless instead of just plodding along hoping something changes. Mowbray undoubtedly did a good job on the whole, Had us playing some lovely football but the chances of a Mowbray team getting promoted are slim. Rumours are the board wanted shot in the summer but they kept him on due to the performances last season. We had Farioli lined up and backtracked, He's got Nice absolutely flying. He was never a long term appointment, He was a stop gap for stability and to allow younger players to flourish. He's done that and it's all gone a bit stale, Obviously it's a gamble but it's one the owners think is worth taking in the next 'phase' of building the club back up. Promoted? How is that supposed to happen with no budget and you sell your best players? What is the ownership group trying to achieve? I don't get the strategy. I assume it's to increase the value in these young players but if they are sold then what? Rinse and repeat? How does that get you promoted and if by some miracle it did happen what then, you would be annihilated in the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I'd be genuinely nervous about the cup game if they appointed him I'd love it. Mowbray has them playing decent passing football. They haven't the players for fat Sam's hoofball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Just now, The Fountain said: I'd love it. Mowbray has them playing decent passing football. They haven't the players for fat Sam's hoofball. That's not a bad shout actually. High balls to Jack Clarke would probably see him out the door before our game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Anyone got the odds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: Thought he was doing OK for them. Not performing miracles or anything but still giving them a decent promotion chance....are they just hoping for their usual manager bounce in time for the cup tie??. Got to make it 7 in a row Marra One small issue with that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Anyone got the odds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Another humiliation of Heckingbottom would be good, 0-6 this time to take away any of their shit crack about 6 in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: Thought he was doing OK for them. Not performing miracles or anything but still giving them a decent promotion chance....are they just hoping for their usual manager bounce in time for the cup tie??. Got to make it 7 in a row Marra I had a quick look and they only have 4 wins out of their last 12. 2 draws and 6 losses.That said, they are still in touch of the playoffs. Only 3 points off 6th and a better goal diff. It does seem a strange decision to sack him. As I'm not sure why they suddenly think they should be in and around the top 6 all the while. They've been shite for how long now? Outside looking in, it seems like Mowbray has done a decent job with what he's had to spend and the players he has. But there must be more to it than that. Perhaps they have been on a downwards spiral, performance wise for a while? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 46 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: Good decision in my opinion, About time we were ruthless instead of just plodding along hoping something changes. Mowbray undoubtedly did a good job on the whole, Had us playing some lovely football but the chances of a Mowbray team getting promoted are slim. Rumours are the board wanted shot in the summer but they kept him on due to the performances last season. We had Farioli lined up and backtracked, He's got Nice absolutely flying. He was never a long term appointment, He was a stop gap for stability and to allow younger players to flourish. He's done that and it's all gone a bit stale, Obviously it's a gamble but it's one the owners think is worth taking in the next 'phase' of building the club back up. I do think they have probably made the right decision. I also think the cup draw brought forward the plan to ditch him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, OverThere said: Promoted? How is that supposed to happen with no budget and you sell your best players? What is the ownership group trying to achieve? I don't get the strategy. I assume it's to increase the value in these young players but if they are sold then what? Rinse and repeat? How does that get you promoted and if by some miracle it did happen what then, you would be annihilated in the prem. We've sold Stewart for 10 million and he hadn't kicked a ball for nearly a year, He's now fucked again at Southampton. Apart from him, Who have we sold? It's a myth we haven't spent money. We don't have parachute money to chuck 10s of millions at people, But we have spent money. Edited December 5, 2023 by TeddySAFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Moving on to their 19th manager in 20 years. Shambolic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, SteV said: Nice ass man fav. Hmmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Just now, Dokko said: Nice ass man fav. Hmmm. Tbh manager odds are inevitably pure guesswork until concrete links start coming out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Lampard for me like.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Hopefully we offer uncle Tony a job here with our youth, like we did Jack Ross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: We've sold Stewart for 10 million and he hadn't kicked a ball for nearly a year, He's now fucked again at Southampton. Apart from him, Who have we sold? It's a myth we haven't spent money. We don't have parachute money to chuck 10s of millions at people, But we have spent money. So you sold Stewart for 10 and spent about 8. If the strategy is slow organic growth with youngsters then that will take years and requires patience from the fans. You don't have the patience given after one year in the Champo expectation seems to be to get promoted. I don't see how Speakman playing moneyball and the expectation of the fans aligns at all. Edited December 5, 2023 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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