relámpago blanco Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 @TeddySAFC You seem fairly level headed, what is the general consensus in Sunderland about Newcastle's turnaround. I only really see the trolls on twitter and the erratic folk on RTG who all seem to offer out any NUFC fan they see who always backs down from them scared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: @TeddySAFC You seem fairly level headed, what is the general consensus in Sunderland about Newcastle's turnaround. I only really see the trolls on twitter and the erratic folk on RTG who all seem to offer out any NUFC fan they see who always backs down from them scared. It's a good question, but I couldn't give an answer about a general consensus myself about Newcastle fans if I was asked that question the other way around. (There's a danger you end up giving a majority view from what you hear and then having to defend it as if you're some sort of spokesman.) But yes, interesting to see if the general vibe he gets is similar to social media or not, without having to answer for it - I get the genuine sense that he just wants to talk about his team on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said: He'd walk into your team man And then just walk around the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Abacus said: It's a good question, but I couldn't give an answer about a general consensus myself about Newcastle fans if I was asked that question the other way around. (There's a danger you end up giving a majority view from what you hear and then having to defend it as if you're some sort of spokesman.) But yes, interesting to see if the general vibe he gets is similar to social media or not, without having to answer for it - I get the genuine sense that he just wants to talk about his team on here. I suspect that Twitter and RTG don't give a true view on their thoughts. Obviously we are rivals, that will never change but a balanced view would be nice. I for one miss the derby. There wasn't a game like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 SAFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GWN Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 This bloke is loopy man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ben Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I've said this for years now, some Sunderland fans hate Newcastle more than they love Sunderland. I was in the Willow Pond on Hylton Road a few years ago and 3 Makems met up for a pint, their first words were "who's the scum got tomorrow ? " never even mentioned Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Holy shit, is that mental fucker Exile123 STILL going?!? CL matches may very well finish the poor bastard, someone get him on suicide watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Ben said: I've said this for years now, some Sunderland fans hate Newcastle more than they love Sunderland. I was in the Willow Pond on Hylton Road a few years ago and 3 Makems met up for a pint, their first words were "who's the scum got tomorrow ? " never even mentioned Sunderland. You’re right about that. Hating NUFC/Newcastle is a big part of what being a Sunderland fan is all about. It’s their inferiority complex. What meaningful metric do they lead us on? In terms of football or as a city? League titles (fair enough, but they were an eternity ago), 9-1 marra, higher record crowd by about 4K which was again a life time ago, and 6 in a row marra. All bullshit that I have seen them use to try and make out they’re some big club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Danh1 said: You’re right about that. Hating NUFC/Newcastle is a big part of what being a Sunderland fan is all about. It’s their inferiority complex. What meaningful metric do they lead us on? In terms of football or as a city? League titles (fair enough, but they were an eternity ago), 9-1 marra, higher record crowd by about 4K which was again a life time ago, and 6 in a row marra. All bullshit that I have seen them use to try and make out they’re some big club. This isn't about Sunderland but on this point - I remember getting into an argument with a Villa fan on Twitter (before I accepted that arguing online was a pointless exercise) about some player we were both linked with and why he would chose one over the other. He said Villa because they were a "Bigger club" (another pointless topic for an argument...) and he based this on the fact that they had won the European Cup whereas we haven't. Obviously he's right, they have won it and we haven't. But I made the point that one European Cup win however many years before this player was born probably isn't going to make a huge difference to how he views them versus us. Same goes for those Sunderland league wins - one win since the start of the First World War versus our record is the epitome of bald men fighting over a comb. We both have shit, barren trophy cabinets and there's little to be gained arguing over which one is less shit and barren than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: This isn't about Sunderland but on this point - I remember getting into an argument with a Villa fan on Twitter (before I accepted that arguing online was a pointless exercise) about some player we were both linked with and why he would chose one over the other. He said Villa because they were a "Bigger club" (another pointless topic for an argument...) and he based this on the fact that they had won the European Cup whereas we haven't. Obviously he's right, they have won it and we haven't. But I made the point that one European Cup win however many years before this player was born probably isn't going to make a huge difference to how he views them versus us. Same goes for those Sunderland league wins - one win since the start of the First World War versus our record is the epitome of bald men fighting over a comb. We both have shit, barren trophy cabinets and there's little to be gained arguing over which one is less shit and barren than the other. Wigan have won a domestic trophy more recent than all three teams mentioned. Does that make them the "bigger club" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, madras said: Wigan have won a domestic trophy more recent than all three teams mentioned. Does that make them the "bigger club" ? Exactly my point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Since we were formed they haven't got anything. Two of their titles were before then and a third before we kicked a ball in the top division. I don't mind giving them it because its one parameter versus however many you like but you know what they'd be like. "big" has to mean something different to "most league titles" otherwise there'd be no conjecture and why not just say that. Edited June 17, 2023 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Ben said: I've said this for years now, some Sunderland fans hate Newcastle more than they love Sunderland. I was in the Willow Pond on Hylton Road a few years ago and 3 Makems met up for a pint, their first words were "who's the scum got tomorrow ? " never even mentioned Sunderland. Found it amusing that Barry Glendennig appears to know about every fart that happens at Newcastle but didn't seem nearly as clued up on his own team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Viana said: Found it amusing that Barry Glendennig appears to know about every fart that happens at Newcastle but didn't seem nearly as clued up on his own team. He couldn't name their team before the playoffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 "So the Mags hounded him out Not like them to be obsessed by anything SAFC" https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/phillipsy.1609673/page-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 13 hours ago, bhoywhonder said: Holy shit, is that mental fucker Exile123 STILL going?!? CL matches may very well finish the poor bastard, someone get him on suicide watch Last I saw he created a fake "Newcastle Fans against Sportwashing" twitter account and was using it to have week long conversations with his actual account. Thank god the UK doesn't have the same access to firearms as the Yanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 20 hours ago, Dancing Brave said: "So the Mags hounded him out Not like them to be obsessed by anything SAFC" https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/phillipsy.1609673/page-2 Have you heard the one about how Geordie identity, which we reinforce (!?) to feel relevant, holds the region back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Phillipsy.... for fuck sake man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 He's right you know, I was just about to secure a huge investment deal in Sunderland when I insisted the investors share a Brown Ale with me and sing Fog on the Tyne. Millions lost due to my enforcement of Geordie identity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Have you heard the one about how Geordie identity, which we reinforce (!?) to feel relevant, holds the region back? Raging again! What a pathetic, sad life they lead. Outraged by everything NUFC! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Think that post almost sums up what we've been talking about. For many of them its anti-Newcastle first and foremost. Yet its the celebrating of our identity that is considered to hold the region back not having an identity predominantly based on being anti something which is not only healthy for the region but a healthy mindset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 17:37, Wallsendmag said: He'd walk into your team man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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