MrRaspberryJam Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Also looks like he came back in ridiculously good shape. People just cannot let go of their previous bias when it comes to certain players, no matter what. It's so childish man. Amen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Not much new from watching that. Solid back line, decent in the middle, minus an attacking playmaker. Wings are piss poor. Minus Wilson, we're championship up top. Need a Young, Pacy CF, Right winger who can play football with end product. Midfielder who can unlock a defence. Paqueta, Diaby and Dennis would do. Side note. Anderson should be in the squad and Murphy and Almiron should be left in Austria. Edited July 18, 2022 by Oregon_Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 All a bit of wind and no fart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: I agree that he’s not good defensively and there are times where he doesn’t chase and compete defensively as much as he should. With the effort hes put into getting in the best shape we've seen him in this summer I think he will be able to adapt his game a bit more now to cover those weaknesses, the lack of chasing always seemed like a bit physical limitation for me. I think this will be his best season for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jack27 said: To get players in we also need to create space, Shelvey is out of contract next year and our midfield options ahead of him are solid. Wouldn't be missed. He's looking like he will be backup to Bruno, which would be the perfect role for him, dictating play in that deeper position. Please tell me who on Earth you see in the team that will fulfil that role if Shelvey leaves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 If that game taught us anything, it's that tried and tested flops like Almiron and Murphy are out of their depth at this level. Miggy wasn't awful, but ultimately he just buzzed around like a pesky mosquito. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Didn’t really learn much we didn’t already know, season will be decided on if we can bring in attacking players, if we don’t we will be between 10th-12th imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: i don’t know what “do anything of sort of come out of difficult situations” means. Otherwise, he’s legitimately one of our most dynamic players - he can do things with a ball and spots runs into space which very few players can. He’s technically a very adept footballer. I wouldn’t say him going too deep is some form of character flaw, he was instructed to play there by consecutive managers. I agree that he’s not good defensively and there are times where he doesn’t chase and compete defensively as much as he should. Difficult situations = tight spaces, under pressure, no time on the ball and so on. That is why he goes too deep. Also how many goals or assists does he contribute with? I know he is good technically and has a good foot but he lacks too much other stuff to make it any level higher than midtable regular at best. Kaka, quit the bias made up bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 good grief, I can't believe some people think Shelvey is better than Bruno and should be starting for Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 From what I can gather, we didn't learn anything we didn't know in this game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, HawK said: I'd still play him ahead of Fraser and Almiron, but it really is like picking your wife from a tree logging contest. Anderson on the left, Maxi on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nine said: Shelvey was consistently good post Bruce last season, clueless to suggest otherwise He definetly improved but statistically at least, he was a weak link in the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Anderson on the left, Maxi on the right. I can see you're reading my previous posts :-) Edited July 18, 2022 by HawK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: He's looking like he will be backup to Bruno, which would be the perfect role for him, dictating play in that deeper position. Please tell me who on Earth you see in the team that will fulfil that role if Shelvey leaves? Replace him with Florian Grillitsch on a free, happy days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ikon said: Or people have only watched Shelvey when we are in possession. Not what he is doing off the ball. Plus he needs time and space to create anything. A reason why he goes brutally deep more often than not. @KaKaagrees with me and its common knowledge what KaKa says is gospel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Didn’t really learn much we didn’t already know, season will be decided on if we can bring in attacking players, if we don’t we will be between 10th-12th imo I mean, its a pre season game where we changed the entire starting 11. We arnt going to learn much at all other than seeing who gets up to speed fitness wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Didn’t really learn much we didn’t already know, season will be decided on if we can bring in attacking players, if we don’t we will be between 10th-12th imo We haven't even seen our strongest 11 play together yet, so not sure how people are drawing these sorts of conclusions. They're clearly mixing the teams up, to force certain players to try and bring more out of some of the lesser players, and challenge them more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 @Ikonthink we'll just have to agree to disagree on Shelvey, I think he's a good player but respect your view otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Good workout, certainly helpful in gauging who isn’t really up to it and what we need. Another striker and RW based on today’s showing. Fraser can do a job and look decent but he’s been poor in the 2 games I’ve seen. Anderson impressed today, looked better than Longstaff. Be good to see him get a start. Couple of astute signings and we’ll good to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, KaKa said: Also looks like he came back in ridiculously good shape. People just cannot let go of their previous bias when it comes to certain players, no matter what. It's so childish man. Or they can acknowledge and appreciate their improvement whilst also observing that they should be replaced in the starting eleven? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: He definetly improved but statistically at least, he was a weak link in the midfield. Post Bruce? Thats not surprising and doesnt mean he was bad.. Bruno/Joe/Willock stats will be much better regardless. Stats dont tell the whole story with the position that he plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack27 said: Replace him with Florian Grillitsch on a free, happy days. What a joke man. This isn't FM man. Grillitsch is not coming here to play a backup role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 It's basically a pre season training excercise in ridiculous heat with a lineup that would never be fielded in the league. Sometime I wish pre season friendlies just weren't televised, people always read too much into them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: Or they can acknowledge and appreciate their improvement whilst also observing that they should be replaced in the starting eleven? And how do you know he's going to be in the starting 11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, Theregulars said: @Ikonthink we'll just have to agree to disagree on Shelvey, I think he's a good player but respect your view otherwise. Aye of course mate. I think he has some good attributes but he will always be too limited. Looking better than Hendrick and Colback doesn’t make a footballer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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