Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Here's one for the grandads Jared Borgetti Unreal goalscoring record and often talked about in the same breath as someone like Martin Palermo before he went to Bolton and turned out to be not all that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: My bullshit theory is that his reputation grew based on him being absolutely class in Fifa I like this theory. I never ever saw him do anything beyond the basics in a game and he cost like 40m when good players were going for half that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: My bullshit theory is that his reputation grew based on him being absolutely class in Fifa like Adriano on Winning 11/Pes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Adriano’s story is actually pretty sad, I think a family member died and he sunk into depression Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ManDoon said: I can’t agree he’s better than Alonso. Alonso had every attribute you could want from a midfielder. But that's patently not true though. Athleticism and mobility - no. Quick feet, close control - no. Scholes was better than Xabi. Scholes did what Xabi did when his legs went. I can definitively say. Modric is the best Real Madrid central midfielder of the last 15 years. Better than Khedira, Kovacic, Xabi, Kroos... all of them. Btw i'm pretty sure if you remove penalties- Mane has outscored Salah in at least 2 seasons that they've been together. Mane's timing of runs in the box from crosses and the way he attacks them and can hit a 1 or 2 touch finish is unparralled. I think Mane is a better finisher. Salah's more run, dribble, shoot and he's more relentless when it comes to goalscoring. His game is more 2-dimensional is Salah but it's harder to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6113581/amp/Adriano-opens-drinking-depression-ruined-career-Inter.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, McCormick said: like Adriano on Winning 11/Pes Aye. Coded by an Inter Milan fan. Martins 99 acceleration and 99 top speed. Adriano was class before he fell off for fair enough reasons though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, The College Dropout said: But that's patently not true though. Athleticism and mobility - no. Quick feet, close control - no. Scholes was better than Xabi. Scholes did what Xabi did when his legs went. I can definitively say. Modric is the best Real Madrid central midfielder of the last 15 years. Better than Khedira, Kovacic, Xabi, Kroos... all of them. Btw i'm pretty sure if you remove penalties- Mane has outscored Salah in at least 2 seasons that they've been together. Mane's timing of runs in the box from crosses and the way he attacks them and can hit a 1 or 2 touch finish is unparralled. I think Mane is a better finisher. Salah's more run, dribble, shoot and he's more relentless when it comes to goalscoring. His game is more 2-dimensional is Salah but it's harder to stop. Alonso read the game much better, was more physically imposing, better long range passer, better long range striker of a ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, jack j said: Paul Scholes Which proves the amount of crap in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Gianluigi Lentini has to be in here. Signed for Milan around 92. At a time when big fees in the UK were around 3-4m, he cost 13m and was rubbish for them. Developed a big rep at Torino but flamed out, don't know the back story though. He was pretty much the poster boy for daft Serie A expenditure in the 90s. Edited May 9, 2022 by LionOfGosforth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Nah.... Obviously good at internationals, but then so was Ali Daei. (yes i know it's not a fair comparison) However Peles club career (not goals scored) is pretty feeble even by 70's standards I won't take shit opinions like this. Respect the King. Fuck are you on about? You realize Santos was the best team in the world back then? Went to Europe every year and beat the Champions League winners and top teams of Europe back then? The Benfica side with Eusebio that won two straight CLs (and played another two in 5 years) were torn apart by Santos and Pele scored 7 goals in three matches against them. Those games were prestigious back then. He won 6 Brazilian league titles in 8 years in a time where their biggest competitor was Botafogo with the likes of Garrincha and Nilton Santos who beat the shit out of most teams as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Gianluigi Lentini has to be in here. Signed for Milan around 92. At a time when big fees in the UK were around 3-4m, he cost 13m and was rubbish for them. Developed a big rep at Torino but flamed out, don't know the back story though. He was pretty much the poster boy for daft Serie A expenditure in the 90s. Another sad story: “A year after signing for Milan, at the age of 24, Lentini was involved in a serious car crash whilst driving home from a pre-season tournament in Genoa, in August 1993. He fractured his skull and damaged his eye socket and he spent about two days in a light coma. After the crash he never fully recovered his mercurial dribbling skills. Plagued by 'memory loss', periods of blurred vision, and 'dizzy spells' he was tormented by the spectre of what his career once was, when he returned to the pitch at the end of the 1993–94 season. His teammate at the time, Marcel Desailly, was compelled to confess that “You could see the skills, how he was before the accident and after the accident, the balance was completely different”. His career in Milan fizzled out and culminated in a European Cup medal and another Serie A title that season, but this was merely for filling the bench; a paltry return for the world's most expensive signing at the time.” (From Wiki) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Lentini was in a pretty serious car crash after his first season at Milan. He pretty much never recovered properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: Another sad story: “A year after signing for Milan, at the age of 24, Lentini was involved in a serious car crash whilst driving home from a pre-season tournament in Genoa, in August 1993. He fractured his skull and damaged his eye socket and he spent about two days in a light coma. After the crash he never fully recovered his mercurial dribbling skills. Plagued by 'memory loss', periods of blurred vision, and 'dizzy spells' he was tormented by the spectre of what his career once was, when he returned to the pitch at the end of the 1993–94 season. His teammate at the time, Marcel Desailly, was compelled to confess that “You could see the skills, how he was before the accident and after the accident, the balance was completely different”. His career in Milan fizzled out and culminated in a European Cup medal and another Serie A title that season, but this was merely for filling the bench; a paltry return for the world's most expensive signing at the time.” (From Wiki) Damn, that's sad. Had no idea or recollection of that at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Damn Kaka is a very controversial one, I thought he was incredible. Pato kind of flamed out. Pato was good when you looked at him as a 17-18 year old. Developed to fuck all. Thought he would be the next big thing, total flop of a player. Kaka was amazing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 The only think you could say about Kaka was a lot of his game was physical attributes and once he lost a step he regressed quite a bit. He was undoubtedly the best player in the world for about 18 months and was generally brilliant for Milan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, ponsaelius said: The only think you could say about Kaka was a lot of his game was physical attributes and once he lost a step he regressed quite a bit. He was undoubtedly the best player in the world for about 18 months and was generally brilliant for Milan. Started pulling his groin after he lost his virginity/got married. Should've stayed a virgin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Flip said: Started pulling his groin after he lost his virginity/got married. Should've stayed a virgin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Ronaldo could've possibly been the reason for Pato's demise and lack of development: ''Ronaldo came over and asked how I was, and then he told me ‘You have to decide, come with me (and he showed me a Playboy) or go in Kaka’s group (who in the dressing room had some church things)’.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, joeyt said: Mark Noble That he has 400+ PL appearances is wild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, Flip said: I won't take shit opinions like this. Respect the King. Fuck are you on about? You realize Santos was the best team in the world back then? Went to Europe every year and beat the Champions League winners and top teams of Europe back then? The Benfica side with Eusebio that won two straight CLs (and played another two in 5 years) were torn apart by Santos and Pele scored 7 goals in three matches against them. Those games were prestigious back then. He won 6 Brazilian league titles in 8 years in a time where their biggest competitor was Botafogo with the likes of Garrincha and Nilton Santos who beat the shit out of most teams as well. Completely agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Under bruce maxi under howe maxi, used to love the dude but theres just nothing there. yea he can run with the ball but thats about it Pay peanuts get...... i spose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ponsaelius said: The only think you could say about Kaka was a lot of his game was physical attributes and once he lost a step he regressed quite a bit. He was undoubtedly the best player in the world for about 18 months and was generally brilliant for Milan. Kaka was really a physical specimen in his prime. Pace, power, agility. When that went he went largely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Roy Keane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 David Beckham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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