Guest neesy111 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On the topic of random defenders, does anyone know why Helder wasn't more of a success here? Established international who played for top clubs, but didn't make an impact here. He was a success and we wanted to sign him after the loan deal, but couldn't agree a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Definitely got referred to as Fat Helder in the Discman household n all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 That season was class from September onwards. From the Sheff Wed game on matchday 8 we had the 6th best record in the league. Remember Domi seemingly setting up shitloads of assists for Shearer, Dabizas scoring a fair few, the kick-off where Speed, Shearer & Ferguson would start on the touch line together and we’d play it back to Nobby to float a ball out to them to bully the full-backs in the air from centre. Probably would have won that cup too if VAR had existed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On the topic of random defenders, does anyone know why Helder wasn't more of a success here? Established international who played for top clubs, but didn't make an impact here. He was a success and we wanted to sign him after the loan deal, but couldn't agree a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Was Helder our first African born player? I can’t remember any before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Was Helder our first African born player? I can’t remember any before Kenny Wharton was born in Cameroon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Was Helder our first African born player? I can’t remember any before Kenny Wharton was born in Cameroon Was Kenny Wharton the guy that looked 30 when was 20 and 30 when he was 50 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On the topic of random defenders, does anyone know why Helder wasn't more of a success here? Established international who played for top clubs, but didn't make an impact here. He was a success and we wanted to sign him after the loan deal, but couldn't agree a deal. Think Robson was actually quite a bit more ruthless with players back then too. Piss him off and out the door, there weren't many that survived his wrath back then...only Solano comes to mind with his international duties, and he was talented enough to get away with it. Dumas, Domi, Cordone, Goma, Marcelino despite being (mostly) decent players were shipped out at the first sign of discontent whatever it was. Didn't Domi want to leave as he thought Newcastle was too decadent for his religious lifestyle or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Was Helder our first African born player? I can’t remember any before Kenny Wharton was born in Cameroon Birth name - Kenn N'wharto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On the topic of random defenders, does anyone know why Helder wasn't more of a success here? Established international who played for top clubs, but didn't make an impact here. So many players I really liked but can't remember how good/shit they were. Helder being one of them. Pistone Bassedas Gavilan Cordone Glass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Cordone was awful after a promising start, thankfully it was only 1 year loan deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Worked his socks off though. I always liked him because despite being utterly rubbish at football he always tried his best. Genuinely thought Gavilan was going to be a world beater too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Acuna too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Worked his socks off though. I always liked him because despite being utterly rubbish at football he always tried his best. Genuinely thought Gavilan was going to be a world beater too He had the name to become a great at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Acuna too. Acuna was a good player, we really should've played him more when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Worked his socks off though. I always liked him because despite being utterly rubbish at football he always tried his best. Genuinely thought Gavilan was going to be a world beater too He had the name to become a great at least I wonder where Estaban Lopez is. We failed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On the topic of random defenders, does anyone know why Helder wasn't more of a success here? Established international who played for top clubs, but didn't make an impact here. So many players I really liked but can't remember how good/shit they were. Helder being one of them. Pistone - Had a mixed time, a lot spent injured, but then was good for a few games, then dire for a few more. He was starting to come good again when sold to Everton. Similar to Santon in a lot of ways. Bassedas - Injured in a preseaon game and never really got going. Never really did anything standout, but was never terrible either Gavilan - Should have been brilliant, and had some good games just could never really handle the physicality. Similar story to Viana really, just had better players in his preferred position Cordone - A couple of memorable goals, but other than that just seemed to run around a bit and look scary without doing much Glass - Another one ruined by injuries in his time here. Gouffran reminded me of him a bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 What about Charvet? Only thing that stands out for him was his volley against Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Should've been put down after that 1-4 v Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Cordone started like a train, a bit later had one of the best assists I’ve seen from a Newcastle player (Goma away at Boro), lost his place in the team, then took part in a few of Bobby’s random triple substitutions. Don’t think he played much second half of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Georgiadis, Maric and Domi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I remember editing Gavilan in CM/FM to be the basically best player in the world, I was so hyped about him. No idea why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Cordone started like a train, a bit later had one of the best assists I’ve seen from a Newcastle player (Goma away at Boro), lost his place in the team, then took part in a few of Bobby’s random triple substitutions. Don’t think he played much second half of the season? 8 minutes 55 on a random 13 minute highlight reel if you search Daniel Cordone video on Google. On 7 minutes there’s almost a replica of the assist against Chelsea. Quality technique on the crosses! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Am I right in thinking Cordone's ear studs were soldered in or something, so he couldn't remove them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Am I right in thinking Cordone's ear studs were soldered in or something, so he couldn't remove them? I think they were initially, but then he had to get them removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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