Dr.Spaceman Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, SteV said: Burn did actually also say that living away from the area has taught him to slow his accent down a bit, especially when talking to foreign lads. However, when Dummett is speaking to Tonali or Bruno they clearly don’t get a word of it. Happened to me when I moved away for the majority of my teens from the age of 12. Quickly realised that very few could understand a muttering little radgie from the Felling in the midland countryside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: The Tonali signing - if we had better intelligence, we would've heard whispers I'm sure. If an England international was involved in betting and talking to teammates about it. I would expect one of Trippier, Pope & Wilson and their camps to at least heard rumours and possibly alert the club to the smoke. He was the alleged "ringleader" - multiple people did know for a fact. The club should question itself about how good our due diligence is. In the scenario above with an England international, more the case that the club would talk to the agent to seek assurances that there isn't any incriminating evidence before going ahead with the transfer. Young lads, loads of money and time, betting will be rife in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’ve heard Tonali reckons Almiron’s English is improving Si! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, macphisto said: In the scenario above with an England international, more the case that the club would talk to the agent to seek assurances that there isn't any incriminating evidence before going ahead with the transfer. Young lads, loads of money and time, betting will be rife in the game. I assume the same applies to any international. If Tonali was doing an Ivan Toney in private. No blame to the club. But multiple people and parties did know. Just not us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Do we even know if Ashworth is involved in the scouting and the contracts? We have a head of scouting and we have a legal team. I thought Ashworth is the person these depts report to, not the person doing those actual jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lotus said: Do we even know if Ashworth is involved in the scouting and the contracts? We have a head of scouting and we have a legal team. I thought Ashworth is the person these depts report to, not the person doing those actual jobs. He’s been scapegoated for it now. There’s no turning back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 As I understand it, what Tonali was doing was not just against the football regulations, but also against the law of the land in Italy. That may have inhibited many in the know from telling tales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lotus said: Do we even know if Ashworth is involved in the scouting and the contracts? We have a head of scouting and we have a legal team. I thought Ashworth is the person these depts report to, not the person doing those actual jobs. Aye I would expect they report into him but he is ultimately responsible for them if they report into him. I don’t think he’s ultimately responsible for transfers but he is one of the key decision makers for them. Im not blaming Ashworth for it btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 The players kept a blood pact amongst each other. Since broken by the weakling at Juve. In the olden days he’d lose an eye. Worlds gone soft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 4 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Holmesy just knock it off mate. Knock what off?! ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 4 hours ago, madras said: I had to do that for work. However when the lads are together it's different. We were asked by some young Americans when in the Lakes last summer what language we were speaking. Several years ago we had a vendor over for a week from London. I was working with him all week with the product we had purchased, getting it setup. I asked him "Do you Englishman have trouble understanding the Scottish like we do"? He said, "I was in a train station in Newcastle and a couple old guys were chatting and I couldn't understand a word, was like a different language". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, McDog said: Several years ago we had a vendor over for a week from London. I was working with him all week with the product we had purchased, getting it setup. I asked him "Do you Englishman have trouble understanding the Scottish like we do"? He said, "I was in a train station in Newcastle and a couple old guys were chatting and I couldn't understand a word, was like a different language". I lived in Cockneyland for quite a few years and they just do not understand English down there. They think that they 'talk' in English down there, but they can only be understood fully by eachother !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, manorpark said: I lived in Cockneyland for quite a few years and they just do not understand English down there. They think that they 'talk' in English down there, but they can only be understood fully by eachother !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Assuming Dan Ashworth stays (which is not certain) his role (assuming he’s doing the same thing as at previous clubs) is mainly to have a setup of total continuity, that means the club, not the manager, has a clear DNA of how it’s going to approach things tactically, and from a recruitment perspective. The problem he’ll be having now is that Eddie Howe has a certain way he wants to do things but they don’t always work, or perhaps they did work and now our opponents have adjusted. So the idea of a clear DNA can’t be nailed down when we don’t have the infrastructure to really test the idea. When Brighton changed managers the changes were minor adjustments and they have a setup now where no matter who leaves, there’s a replacement lined up. Whether that’s a manager or the players. I don’t see that in us yet but for whatever reason is unclear at the moment, he wasn’t at Brighton all that long after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 The thing we have to understand about Brighton, is that it’s Bloom’s Love child not Ashworth’s. We will have our own approach to continuity and transfers and infrastructure etc. that Ashworth is helping to build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 He can take Danny Murphy with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Hardly breaking news like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I’d like this story to fuck off. Ashworth can stay or go but uncertainty and column inches aren’t good for us. Hope this gets resolved before the end of the month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 That's him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Craig Hope vs Luke Edwards Now which one would you believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Lines up with what I've been told in that he could stay or he could go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, TBG said: Lines up with what I've been told in that he could stay or he could go. If he goes there could be trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Reckon this has caused a bit of disruption around the club leading to this shit run of form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Not a chance, I reckon it's the other way round if anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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