gdm Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 hour ago, NUFC91 said: A don't really get the rat comments TBF, he probably got a big pay rise and was joing a bigger and more successful club, something we would all do in our personal jobs I imagine? And I wonder if there was fall out on our board he could see and thought time was right? It’s the way it was done he was leaking stuff about his contract etc to Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 6 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Except the same people who found him out appointed him. Man U can fail upwards. ££££ There's only so long you can hold your tongue when you work for a total c*nt. Radcliffe wants all the power without being challenged - hire the best people and that won't happen. He wants to be surrounded by yes men. Ashworth is clearly very good at what he does but he also needs the right working conditions and structure to thrive. He didn't find it here and evidently he didn't find it at ManUre either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, toon25 said: Anyone recommending Southgate for job in management deserved to be sacked. Immediately. But he didn’t. Love an Ashworth bash, but don’t think he’s done anything wrong here. Club wanted Amorim, he had doubts and wanted to run some analytics on him further before a decision is made, instead of going “He chats well and a charmer, let’s hire”. Basically wanted some processes in place to back decision. Brexit Jim wanted the old fashioned, make your decision like it’s a 1980s board room. Modern day football is nothing like that, and why Nice are a mess under Jim and looks like Man Utd will be going same way. Edited December 9 by Sibierski Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 The reason Ratcliffe accepted the ludicrous position of taking responsibility for the football side with only a 27% stake was because he was a fan and wanted to play at being a football manager. There seems real confusion at Man U about how major football decisions are being made. I've had doubts about Amorim from the start. I think they need someone with more experience, preferably in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 30 minutes ago, Sibierski said: “He chats well and a charmer, let’s hire”. He does chat well and is very charming, but I think there's a bit more to him than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 6 minutes ago, Cronky said: I've had doubts about Amorim from the start. I think they need someone with more experience, preferably in the Premiership. Moyes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Amorim looks to be a very talented manager. I just think his approach is not well suited to a number of key players they have. And so they are going to have to revamp the team significantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) Call me mental but I think with the right remit as a transitional team (something that tbf very few managers and DoFs would agree to) Southgate and Ashworth probably would have sorted Man United out in a walk-before-you-run way - getting them into a position to push on. It's exactly what they did with England, which had a lot of the same problems you see at Man United: lack of team spirit and unity, players perceived as unlikeable primadonnas, backroom communication, youth setup, infrastructure issues. Edited December 9 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: so they are going to have to revamp the team significantly. And very specifically to a very specific formation. Ashworth had a good point that your transfer policy cannot be shackled to the ideas of one very particular manager. What happens when Amorim fails and the new amazing talented guy comes in who wants to play 433? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 I feel 5 games is a bit soon to write Amorim off like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 All i can say is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 I get that they felt they needed to act but I found it a bit risky to bring Amorim in at the start of this run. A coach with a very specific approach given a Frankenstein squad and a game every 3/4 days. Like Potter at Chelsea it’s just becomes a reaction of going from game to game and makes it difficult to implement your style, esp if the losses start to stack up. He’ll get time as he should but a rocky start can be hard to shake especially when he came in with such hype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, GeordieDazzler said: I get that they felt they needed to act but I found it a bit risky to bring Amorim in at the start of this run. A coach with a very specific approach given a Frankenstein squad and a game every 3/4 days. Like Potter at Chelsea it’s just becomes a reaction of going from game to game and makes it difficult to implement your style, esp if the losses start to stack up. He’ll get time as he should but a rocky start can be hard to shake especially when he came in with such hype. Yeah, seems an over reactionary rash decision. Ruud was looking like he would have been able to stabilise things until the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 56 minutes ago, KaKa said: Amorim looks to be a very talented manager. I just think his approach is not well suited to a number of key players they have. And so they are going to have to revamp the team significantly. Tbf that sums up the case for multiple managers Man U have gone through since Fergie left. It's always the manager to blame. Can't get the best out of the players. In football, it's never the players fault. It sucks. 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Dan has certainly done a good job in messing up two clubs' planning, whilst coming across as a bit of a fool at best with the e-mails. Time for a job at Halfords so he can waffle on about wheels and spokes to his heart's content instead of prancing around football clubs like a clown. On a different note, I'm still not convinced many DOFs do anything much except blame managers and plead for time due to it all being a long term project. As cushy a job as a fourth choice goalkeeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Apropos of nothing. He let my mate go when he was coming through at Cambridge. So he is loving this. Always said he couldn't stand him and he was a creep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) And reader, that mate was Christiano Ronaldo. (Just thought that would be a better ending) Edited December 9 by Abacus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 11 minutes ago, Abacus said: Dan has certainly done a good job in messing up two clubs' planning, whilst coming across as a bit of a fool at best with the e-mails. Time for a job at Halfords so he can waffle on about wheels and spokes to his heart's content instead of prancing around football clubs like a clown. On a different note, I'm still not convinced many DOFs do anything much except blame managers and plead for time due to it all being a long term project. As cushy a job as a fourth choice goalkeeper. Time for a job in a gardening store surely? 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Groundhog63 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 22 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Time for a job in a gardening store surely? 😆 Garden Centres are legalised crime enterprises feeding off the, ample, finances of the grey pound. Obscene ££££s FWIW natch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Based on the Forest game a couple days ago, felt like Man U played the same way the entire game whether they were winning or losing. You could say it was admirable but I do think you need to change things up when the score changes in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 7 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Garden Centres are legalised crime enterprises feeding off the, ample, finances of the grey pound. Obscene ££££s FWIW natch Homebase is shutting so he can't go there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 hour ago, Froggy said: He does chat well and is very charming, but I think there's a bit more to him than that. The big coat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Based on the Forest game a couple days ago, felt like Man U played the same way the entire game whether they were winning or losing. You could say it was admirable but I do think you need to change things up when the score changes in the Premier League. Amorim has said that his main focus is getting everyone up to speed with his system. He's rotating like crazy and even has the youth teams playing the same formation. He said we'd try and pick up as many wins as possible but he needs everyone as fit as possible and used to the system before we can start to build. He's said from the start we'd still be shit for a while. Edited December 9 by Froggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 12 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Garden Centres are legalised crime enterprises feeding off the, ample, finances of the grey pound. Obscene ££££s FWIW natch So Ashworth would fit right in then... 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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