Memberships (2025/26)

[SteV]

1 minute ago, Leazes1986 said:

It's like away games really. Lots of us have been to multiple away games with no record of it as it was using someone else's ticket. 

 

They definitely have to come up with a way of making it fair for younger fans. There is probably a way of getting some younger ones in by allowing people on the the waiting list to add have a child added alongside of them, so an adult who meets the criteria for the highest category, can have a child added with them with no criteria required for them.

 

I suppose the teenager one wouldn't quite work with that as they would tent to go with friends.

 

I.cant really think of many ways to make it fair on young kids. 

Yep, same issue with away tickets, although it’s probably exacerbated even further in that there’s a far smaller number of available tickets, which gives you even less wiggle room to come up with anything.

 

The whole ticketing issue is an impossible conundrum to solve whilst demand outstrips supply so significantly, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t continue to try.

[Leazes1986]

2 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

That would then make the loyalty point criteria for each match higher which would be slightly unfair on the people who just miss out.

 

I understand what you're saying though, personally i think they need to stop dishing out as many corporate Tickets for away games. Its 600/700 for some games. Maybe take 100 or so out of that for kids to go.

 

We know that won't happen though.

Ah i was just using the away ticket thing as an example of how the club might not necessarily care about the fact that some supporters have been to loads of home matches with no record of them being there, due to getting their ticket from a friend. Just like what has happened with away tickets and now people can't go.

 

When I mentioned having a child alongside you, I was meaning on the ST waiting list, so they can go in the top category as long as their parent meets the criteria for it. The child isn't required to have a ticket history. 

[bobbydazzla]

1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Least there's a ballot now. Unless you were a season ticket holder, you were pretty much locked out from 1992 to 2000. 

I know, I was a yoot then and only got to games a couple of times per season when my mates sister who had an ST didn’t want to go.

 

My parents had zero interest in football so I’d never been to a match until I was old enough to go with a pal and then shortly after I’d been and loved it, the door got closed on me immediately by the lockout.

 

That’s why I think it’s vital to have a way for yoots to get on the ladder at all times. Not just getting home tickets, but to go away, build points etc. 
 

A bairn in Oct 21 is a yoot now and they’ve been lumbered with all the same ticket hassles as an adult has. Which isn’t fair on them. 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[bobbydazzla]

Derailing thread slightly, but all the young kids at away games, the ones who aren’t even teens yet.

 

How are they getting tickets ? Off of the corporate or staff allocation ? 

 

I think it’s good that they we’ve got kids getting access to away games, but they’ve definitely not been around long enough to stack their own away points. 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[SteV]

7 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Derailing thread slightly, but all the young kids at away games, the ones who aren’t even teens yet.

 

How are they getting tickets ? Off of the corporate or staff allocation ? 

 

I think it’s good that they we’ve got kids getting access to away games, but they’ve definitely not been around long enough to stack their own away points. 

 

 

 

Transfers? Ballot?
 

Also there is the possibility of ST’s being transferred over from someone else (a grandad for example). Seems a bit of a grey area whether the loyalty points go with the ticket, but I’ve definitely heard of instances where it’s (apparently) happened.

 

Or they’re just going in on someone else’s ticket.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by SteV

[bobbydazzla]

6 minutes ago, SteV said:

Transfers? Ballot?
 

Also there is the possibility of ST’s being transferred over from someone else (a grandad for example). Seems a bit of a grey area whether the loyalty points go with the ticket, but I’ve definitely heard of instances where it’s (apparently) happened.

 

Or they’re just going in on someone else’s ticket.

 

 

 

A parent taking a kid in on someone else’s ticket under the current draconian ticket check regime is running a big risk.

 

Taking little Radgie Toonfan Jnr all the way there with a chance the ticket goes red at the gate and neither Fatha Toonfan or little Radgie get to watch the game. 
 

Be tantrums at the turnstiles 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Optimistic Nut]

30 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

I know, I was a yoot then and only got to games a couple of times per season when my mates sister who had an ST didn’t want to go.

 

My parents had zero interest in football so I’d never been to a match until I was old enough to go with a pal and then shortly after I’d been and loved it, the door got closed on me immediately by the lockout.

 

That’s why I think it’s vital to have a way for yoots to get on the ladder at all times. Not just getting home tickets, but to go away, build points etc. 
 

A bairn in Oct 21 is a yoot now and they’ve been lumbered with all the same ticket hassles as an adult has. Which isn’t fair on them. 

 

 

 

 

Don't we have something like a 12k family enclosure or something ridiculous? Maybe when a kid and family outgrow that area when they reach a certain age, make seats up there available match by match to u17s or something. 

[SteV]

Just now, bobbydazzla said:

A parent taking a kid in on someone else’s ticket under the current draconian ticket check regime is running a big risk.

 

Taking little Radgie Toonfan Jnr all the way there with a chance the ticket goes red at the gate and neither Fatha Toonfan or little Radgie get to watch the game. 

Agreed, but it definitely still happens regardless. 
 

Obviously, to a vastly reduced level to pre-check days.

[bobbydazzla]

5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Don't we have something like a 12k family enclosure or something ridiculous? Maybe when a kid and family outgrow that area when they reach a certain age, make seats up there available match by match to u17s or something. 

People have said there’s late teens and early 20’s in L7 who’ve had season tickets up there with their parents since they were bairns and just been able to keep going even though they’re not a bairn anymore.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Optimistic Nut]

Let the younger ones stay there, get rid of the parents. 

[bobbydazzla]

9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Let the younger ones stay there, get rid of the parents. 

100%
 

We need the next generation coming through on their own two feet

 

That’s why I was a bit surprised when the OAP I was talking to recently said he’d inherited his ST this year from his OAP pal who’d passed away.

 

Tickets should should be making their way into the hands of the yoot generation, not being passed along from pensioner to pensioner

[Wallsendmag]

Agree with the general sentiment on here. Whatever tickets do go on sale, release to members under the age of 25. Freshen the place up a bit. Us older ones have had our chances of a ST. I had one from the Ardiles era up until Bruce but I'm happy to be pushed down the queue now to make way for a younger person who's desperate to get their first season ticket.

[Interpolic]

[Leazes1986]

The thing which can fix a lot of this is if we move stadiums, don't piss about with 65,000 if we can go closer to 70,000. 

 

 

[Kilcline]

Agree on the prioritisation of the younger generation, although with prices going the way they're going I doubt they'd go that route, or if they did how accessible/affordable they'd be anyway.

 

I think I'm of a mind that those tickets should stay game-by-game, for now. My reasoning is that I'm not sure how smart (or fair, but there'll be winners and losers whatever they do) it would be to say "we're going to issue 150 STs based on X, Y, Z..." when people may have (and some definitely have even just based on what we see anecdotally on N-O) changed their behaviour around getting a membership or applying for ballots due to the success rate in the last two years, when they may have stuck it out had the carrot of an ST been known about. Although it's a decent enough reward for eating the shit sarnies the club have been dishing up on the ticketing front in the last few years.

 

So my view would be to add the ST Waiting List option to Mags+ - think of all the extra tenners that would generate for PSR, woo hoo! - set some specific and defined criteria about how a waiting list will be ordered, and go from there when everyone knows the craic. As others have mentioned in the past, something like Chelsea's member points scheme would create an "on merit" list pretty easily within a year or two.

 

If it were to be based on just entering ballots, for example, I think that'll feel like a right old fudge just to say "well we issued some STs didn't we?" and probably piss everyone off apart from the 150 lucky souls. And if members who got lucky in the Celtic ballot got a loyalty point (was that ever confirmed?) and they're top of the list, it'll be a bigger fudge than the you could enter the ballot for a cup final ticket if you entered even one Carabao Cup ballot.

[Tross]

6 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

And if members who got lucky in the Celtic ballot got a loyalty point

 

Imagine, I knocked the ticket back - box office rang me the neet before to 'congratulate' me 

[Leazes1986]

If i was to guess i would say the majority of the 150 season tickets will be released in L7 and they'll sell it as a way of getting more kids in, and they'll keep the tickets they've cancelled in the lower bowl to sell to members, as they can charge a higher price. 

[Optimistic Nut]

3 hours ago, Leazes1986 said:

The thing which can fix a lot of this is if we move stadiums, don't piss about with 65,000 if we can go closer to 70,000. 

 

 

 

People have this feather in their cap about some empty seats. Personally if we're getting 70k for 50% of the games and 60-65k for 50% of the matches then why the fuck does it matter?

[SteV]

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

 

People have this feather in their cap about some empty seats. Personally if we're getting 70k for 50% of the games and 60-65k for 50% of the matches then why the fuck does it matter?

The argument, and I’m not saying I agree with it, is that having a consistent oversubscribe of capacity, is what helps to keep your demand consistently high.

 

For example, if we have a 70k stadium that’s near enough full for most games, but you can usually get a ticket if you want one, and then we have a ‘Man Utd-style’ drop in form, it’s a lot more likely that consistent 70k becomes a consistent 50k or less.

 

However, if you’re oversubscribed with demand, as Man Utd were, you tend to not see that much of a drop-off in attendances, despite the drop-off in form.

 

I’m sure there’s a term for this, that those that understand market economics far better than me will be able to recall.

[Leazes1986]

26 minutes ago, SteV said:

The argument, and I’m not saying I agree with it, is that having a consistent oversubscribe of capacity, is what helps to keep your demand consistently high.

 

For example, if we have a 70k stadium that’s near enough full for most games, but you can usually get a ticket if you want one, and then we have a ‘Man Utd-style’ drop in form, it’s a lot more likely that consistent 70k becomes a consistent 50k or less.

 

However, if you’re oversubscribed with demand, as Man Utd were, you tend to not see that much of a drop-off in attendances, despite the drop-off in form.

 

I’m sure there’s a term for this, that those that understand market economics far better than me will be able to recall.

I get that as well. I suppose a big question is how many season tickets would we be able to shift if we added another 18,000 seats onto the capacity? If a decent percentage of the seats go to season tickets then at least that is a bum on a seat paid for and guaranteed for a season. 

[OCOCOL]

5 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

A parent taking a kid in on someone else’s ticket under the current draconian ticket check regime is running a big risk.

 

Taking little Radgie Toonfan Jnr all the way there with a chance the ticket goes red at the gate and neither Fatha Toonfan or little Radgie get to watch the game. 
 

Be tantrums at the turnstiles 

 

 

 

 

You still et into the match the holder just loses the points - at least that's what happened to someone I knew...

 

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by OCOCOL

[LFEE]

7 hours ago, Leazes1986 said:

The main question here is, is this a waiting list for now or is it a waiting list for the new stadium/extension?

 

The chances are so slim of getting one of the few tickets that might go on sale every season if someone doesn't renew. For me, it's mainly going to be for when there are thousands of more seats available.

 

So, although we're saying you need to make it fair for young kids, by the time the new stadium/extension is here, the young kids of today won't be young kids anymore, and the young kids of 2035 or whenever it might be will then miss out, as they weren't born/weren't interested when the list was created.

 

That one is pretty much impossible to control though. 

It’s from next season.

[Wallsendmag]

1 hour ago, Leazes1986 said:

I get that as well. I suppose a big question is how many season tickets would we be able to shift if we added another 18,000 seats onto the capacity? If a decent percentage of the seats go to season tickets then at least that is a bum on a seat paid for and guaranteed for a season. 

 

We could easily sell 60k STs if we had a 70k capacity if that was the route the club wanted to go down (I know they won't) which would guarantee a sell out every match, or they could cap it at 40/45k and make more money game by game but with the knowledge that some midweek games might not be 100% filled to capacity.

[Bellis80]

If it’s that easy to get tickets having a season ticket isn’t needed like it is now and I don’t think you could sell as many if prices continue going up. I’m sure the gap between the season ticket price and game by game will get closer, they just couldn’t whack season tickets up 100% as they might have wanted to after the 10 year thing. Could pick and choose and probably not miss anything you wanted to go to.

 

I’ve read a few people in here that are really keen to go say they would have missed Tuesday night for some reason anyway. Some games are a pain in the arse for everyone.

[Wallsendmag]

2 hours ago, Bellis80 said:

If it’s that easy to get tickets having a season ticket isn’t needed like it is now and I don’t think you could sell as many if prices continue going up. I’m sure the gap between the season ticket price and game by game will get closer, they just couldn’t whack season tickets up 100% as they might have wanted to after the 10 year thing. Could pick and choose and probably not miss anything you wanted to go to.

 

I’ve read a few people in here that are really keen to go say they would have missed Tuesday night for some reason anyway. Some games are a pain in the arse for everyone.

 

20.15 games are a pain in the arse for getting home. 8pm is bad enough but that extra 15 minutes makes all the difference.

 

I preferred it years ago when all midweek games kicked off at 19.30.