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3 hours ago, duo said:

Ben Jacobs

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& Mudryk has noticed many #AFC fans courting him online: “One surprise for me was how many Arsenal fans followed me. No other club’s fans have interacted as much. They tell me they're waiting for me saying, ‘Come to us’. One of my recent posts has over 500 comments saying that.”

 

..we need to get on twitter :howe:

Howay Newcastle Twitter and Youtube weirdos, do your bit. Put the energy into buttering up Mudryk that you put into getting pictures of Paqueta in the Toon 

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I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball?

It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no?

 

Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk...

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28 minutes ago, Oregon_Geordie said:

I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball?

It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no?

 

Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk...


I know what you mean but I think he’s pretty adaptable position wise even if he’s different to what we already have. I think he’d be a tremendous signing and Howe would be able to coach him massively to our style too and he’d give us that player to really open teams up at home too.

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8 hours ago, NWMag said:

I’m sorry but Maddison is not ‘very strong on one foot and very weak on the other’.

 

I’m pretty sure he’s scored against us from outside the box with both his right and left foot. 

Maddison is very two footed 

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I have no qualms about who NUFC signs in january, I have 100% trust in them at the moment due to their 100% success in the signings made to date.

My own opinion is that we will probably sell ASM and buy perhaps two attacking wingers/Nº10 types (Diaby/maddison/Mudryk...). I just can´t see ASM turning into a pressing beast any time soon.

I think we will also bring in a few younger "stars" (perrone -argentina?/kuol/others) who can grow into the team...

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1 hour ago, Oregon_Geordie said:

I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball?

It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no?

 

Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk...

 

You've summarised the dilemma there.

 

If someone had told me a year ago that we'd have a very effective pressing game, I'd have laughed. We didn't press at all, and the players we've brought in, you wouldn't say would be ones that would change that. None of our midfield players have pace and we don't have a DM, which I had thought was essential. Eddie has achieved a strong press by an effective fitness programme and by good organisation. He seems to have developed in our team a pack-like instinct about when to commit to the press. So I wonder whether he can do a similar transformation with Maddison, who you rightly say isn't obviously suited to that kind of aggressive game.

 

The other orthodoxy that Eddie is challenging is the need for a specialist DM to protect the back line. I had often thought that it was a double edged sword, because a DM tends to see a lot of the ball, and if they can't use it well then the creative aspect of your team is hampered. And if you're pressuring the ball further upfield, then you don't need someone to defend the back line so much.

 

On a related point, that's why I find Southgate's commitment to two DMs in Phillips and Rice so frustrating. 

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2 hours ago, Oregon_Geordie said:

I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball?

It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no?

 

Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk...

Agree completely, got my doubts about Maddison, not as a footballer but as suited to our way of play. The only thing is though if Bruno got injured would we have that creative spark to see a pass, not so sure and there’s an argument that he could be useful in tight games at home when we need to break down a packed defence. We would lose a lot of physicality in midfield by dropping Longstaff or Joelinton at the minute, so not sure how he fits in especially for what he’d cost.

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2 hours ago, Oregon_Geordie said:

I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball?

It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no?

 

Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk...

Does he suit our style ? Probably not right now. More importantly would he fit the way Eddie sees us playing in the future ? Has he the capacity to change his game the way Eddie wants it given that the way we play now will not be the finished article.

 

 

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To me Kovacic is the type of midfielder we need. Great technique and mixture of attributes. Obviously I doubt he’d be available but a player of that ilk as he could interchange positions with Bruno and Joelinton. Basically an upgrade on Longstaff. Maddison I’d imagine would have to play in the front three which like I’ve said doesn’t suite our high end press. Play him in the middle three and I think you’d compromise Bruno and create more problems than you solve.

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Not sure about Maddison not fitting our style argument... Let's be honest he's no slower than Longstaff or Bruno and they fit in quite well with it.

 

I wouldn't have believed this time last season even that we would be seeing the players Bruce had playing the way they are now. It might take a little bit to adjust but I think he could fit in if he has the right attitude and desire to play like the rest of the team.

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17 minutes ago, beardsleymagic said:

Not sure about Maddison not fitting our style argument... Let's be honest he's no slower than Longstaff or Bruno and they fit in quite well with it.

 

I wouldn't have believed this time last season even that we would be seeing the players Bruce had playing the way they are now. It might take a little bit to adjust but I think he could fit in if he has the right attitude and desire to play like the rest of the team.

I think that’s key to Eddie, attitude and desire. If he sees capability, with the right desire and attitude. I believe he’ll believe he can fit the player into our system with coaching. What a fucking manager he is!  

 

 

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I’m sure if Maddison has any ambition at all he’ll be keen to develop his style to fit into a pressing system and other than Guardiola there’s no better coach than Howe for that. It’s a massive part of the game that you have to be good at now unless you’re a Messi/Neymar/Mbappé tier talent.

 

Imagine having his quality as one of the 8s. It would be unreal.

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1 hour ago, beardsleymagic said:

Not sure about Maddison not fitting our style argument... Let's be honest he's no slower than Longstaff or Bruno and they fit in quite well with it.

 

I wouldn't have believed this time last season even that we would be seeing the players Bruce had playing the way they are now. It might take a little bit to adjust but I think he could fit in if he has the right attitude and desire to play like the rest of the team.

Would he be replacing any of these two though? That’s the argument. He’d be replacing Miggy or less likely Willock slots. He’s not as fast or able to press like they do and we already have Isack and ASM waiting in the wings for those two slots.

 

So if he’s replacing 1 of Bruno Longstaff or Joelinton I think he creates more issues than solves as you’d think it be Longstaff and he’s not in that ilk.
 

 

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1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Would he be replacing any of these two though? That’s the argument. He’d be replacing Miggy or less likely Willock slots. He’s not as fast or able to press like they do and we already have Isack and ASM waiting in the wings for those two slots.

 

So if he’s replacing 1 of Bruno Longstaff or Joelinton I think he creates more issues than solves as you’d think it be Longstaff and he’s not in that ilk.
 

 

That's assuming we continue to try to replicate the way we play now going forward and he doesn't have the ability to take on new tactics.

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8 minutes ago, madras said:

That's assuming we continue to try to replicate the way we play now going forward and he doesn't have the ability to take on new tactics.

Indeed. There’s an argument to be made that Howe is making do with what he has inherited and plans to develop tactically as he brings in players that suit his vision for the future.

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9 minutes ago, madras said:

That's assuming we continue to try to replicate the way we play now going forward and he doesn't have the ability to take on new tactics.

I think it’s safe to assume in general we will if we’ve went from bottom of the table to third top within 12 months based on the mantra Intensity Is Our Identity ?

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29 minutes ago, LFEE said:

I think it’s safe to assume in general we will if we’ve went from bottom of the table to third top within 12 months based on the mantra Intensity Is Our Identity ?

That's off the ball. In possession we have much more room to improve. Do you not think someone like Maddison could be an effective presser under Howe ?

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19 minutes ago, madras said:

That's off the ball. In possession we have much more room to improve. Do you not think someone like Maddison could be an effective presser under Howe ?

I don’t. Feel free to scan all my posts regarding Maddison. He’s a very good player and will do well in a certain system, probably at Leicester in their 4-1-4-1. I just think along with Shelvey that type of player is not for our system anymore and our interest and focus may of changed as after the rumoured bid we’ve signed Isak and Miggy is now rediscovered the form he showed under Rafa with Perez and Rondon and at Atlanta.

 

Looking forward to seeing him up against as like I’ve said he does usually play well against us but coincidentally we’ve always been in poor form also.

 

Boxing Day should be a cracker as Leicester have turned it around having patience in Rodger’s rewarded and maybe the break has done us a little favour oddly despite our own great form.

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I go back to an Athletic article from a little while back about the transformation from positions to roles. Yes we play with a high intensity and I think could be drilled for most players, one thing we are lacking is players (plural) who can be creative from several positions and add goals. 

 

So far our staff have been fantastic at identifying players and getting more out if them than seemed possible. I'm happy yo let them get who they think works.

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When we were linked to Maddison in the summer I expect he was identified as a player who could play in place of Miggy on the right and cover one of the front 2 CM roles if need be, he would need to adapt to fit into our CM role without playing a quality DM behind him. The same doubts I had with Paqueta basically.  

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