Holloway Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I'd like to see how Krafu comes back after getting done in, he was starting to look the part before that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 We aren't signing 9 players FFS. It will be 4/6, 3 will be proper top class and a couple more to offer us depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SteV said: No, sell 5 potentially. Kraft wasn’t in the PL squad second half of the season, so he doesn’t get replaced, or sell Manquillo and Kraft replaces him. Darlow wasn’t in the squad so he wouldn’t necessarily need replaced. Obviously if we were to sell a ‘big’ player like ASM or Miggy (can’t see it myself) then clearly they would need replacing. If you’re bringing 9 in, you’ve got to lose 9 out of the current 25 man squad, and that’s just not happening. Very fair points. Same for Ahmed above. I definitely cant see Miggy gone. I would also be surprised if ASM is gone. Our 3rd string GK played a cup final. We had Anderson out there in the biggest match of the season. I'd like to avoid those situations by focusing on depth and not just 2-3 signings considering we could conceivable play way more matches next season and not be lucky as far as injuries and suspensions go. Edited May 30, 2023 by Sufi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gawalls said: You do know nowadays ffp is real right? Loans? Free transfers? Long term structuring on transfer fees? You do know that is real?....right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, STM said: We aren't signing 9 players FFS. It will be 4/6, 3 will be proper top class and a couple more to offer us depth. How many players should we sell from our first team squad? Which players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, Sufi said: Very fair points. Same for Ahmed above. I definitely cant see Miggy gone. I would also be surprised if ASM is gone. Our 3rd string GK played a cup final. We had Anderson out there in the biggest match of the season. I'd like to avoid those situations by focusing on depth and not just 2-3 signings. But if you’re adding 2-3 signings and not losing anyone significant, that’s giving you depth. There’s very little you can do about situations like the keeper one for the final. No-one has a third choice keeper that’s better than average. If Ederson and Ortega go down for Man City in the next couple of weeks, Scott Carson’s playing in the CL final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Backup GK on loan if dubravka leaves 3rd string proven CF on loan. LB for 35m CB to compete with Schar for 25m attacking CM for 50m. Competition for RW for 25m. defensive CM for 25m (some of the above could be replaced with free transfers) Replacements for the 2-4 championship level players we will hopefully sell so we can round out a team that can compete in multiple competitions without being one injury away from failure. Potential LW to replace ASM. Dont see why its impossible for 7-9 new faces in especially if we lose ASM or Dubravka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 If I was a footballer and I saw nine new players rock up after the season we've just had I'd be baffled. We won't fix all the problems in one window even if we wanted to, something just wouldn't work out. I can see that there's a good few positions to bring in competition/backup, but think four signings is more realistic. If three were first team quality and one (Arda Guler) for Eddie to work with I'd class that as a brilliant window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, David Edgar said: The pressure regains stat comparison is why I think Szoboszlai should be our preference. I've always thought of Maddison as a bit of a luxury player out of possession. Him in the starting 11 would weaken our press. Tbh, Szoboszlai just looks a better player there. And he has age on his side. Szobo is also playing in of the most high-press clubs in Europe. You can't really tell from those stats how Maddison would fit in that role. I am sure our scouts will assess that better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 We might sign 9 but a few of those would be loaned out. Your Ashby, Kuol, Anderson-type players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, BonesJones said: If I was a footballer and I saw nine new players rock up after the season we've just had I'd be baffled. We won't fix all the problems in one window even if we wanted to, something just wouldn't work out. I can see that there's a good few positions to bring in competition/backup, but think four signings is more realistic. If three were first team quality and one (Arda Guler) for Eddie to work with I'd class that as a brilliant window. Surely some of those players would be replacements for players sold? We've made a jump equivalent to championship>premier league. Literally 5-6 players who have featured for us this season will serve no purpose next season and probably shouldnt be relied on even in an emergency situation. We could also lose 1-2 players most likely Dubravka and ASM. I could just be out of my mind thinking this is football manager hahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) I doubt we’re getting 9 players. Our alleged 150m budget would already be stretched going for 4 quality (or let’s say first team) additions. As an example: Szos 50m, Min-Jae/Schuurs- 40 ish, Tierney- 30m and McTominay- 25m- is what our budget can get us more or less. Edited May 30, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Sufi said: I know its underwhelming for some of us who have spent months watching uber talented foreign players on youtube but how would you guys feel about Ward-Prowse, Tierney, Maddison and a good proven PL CB in his prime like Tarkovski? If we spend 130-140m on those 4 and fill out the rest with loans and free transfers. Maybe a youngster for the future like Guler. Personally I would be very very happy with that. Thoughts? Would be underwhelmed but not because they're from the Prem and not foreign players from YouTube. We need to be moving up into the next bracket, not just buying people from average/poor PL teams. I've got major questions about Maddison (fit) and Tierney (fitness record) but I'll give them a go if the club decide to go that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) Free transfers, loans, cheap youngsters for the future who we could loan out etc. ^ This is a reply to McCormick and not the above post. Sorry for my noobness. Edited May 30, 2023 by Sufi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 9 signings would be ridiculous even if there's 9/25 positions we think we're weak. 4-5 is perfectly reasonable and realistic. If they're top drawer, then 3 is also great if we're going to keep the likes of Lascelles, Targett, etc for another year or so. Edited May 30, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Im hoping for Rice/Ugarte and Dom Slobby as a minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I'd like to keep Lascelles and Targett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Sufi said: Loans? Free transfers? Long term structuring on transfer fees? You do know that is real?....right? So you want CL quality loans or free transfers? Good luck with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Im hoping for Rice/Ugarte and Dom Slobby as a minimum. Lets not make Dom Slobby a thing. Sounds very BDSM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Like TCD says, unless there's an influx of youngster who are immediately loaned out, we won't sign nine. Howe has spoken at length about evolving the squad and the detrimental effect of too many signing on team spirit. If we sign five, we have two passable players in every position. I am interested to see how Howe handles any bids for Lascelles or Murphy though. By all accounts key men in the dressing room, but he'll be under pressure with FFP to consider and the players moving to the fringes of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Gawalls said: So you want CL quality loans or free transfers? Good luck with that Aye, we were being ripped off just trying to loan Gallagher or Berge for 6 months so that's easier said than done.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Depends if Howe wants competition for places type players or immediate upgrades to the 11 as both come could potentially come in different price brackets. Wonder if Howe changes his mind on not wanting to bring in loans if you aren't wanting to buy due to the extra fixtures. Exciting times either way. We may well not spend or bring in enough but will be substantially more investment that in the previous regime. Not been enough time or transfer windows have gone by that I don't still remember bidding half a players value and saying we tried or declaring we are done with no noticeable improvements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Ignoring signings like Kuol who are for the future I think it will be like last summer, where people expected loads of signings and we only made 4 (1 of which was already here and the other was done late in the window and more opportunistic) I accept being a CL club changes things and perhaps easier to sign the level of player we want but I genuinely don't think Howe would want 5+ players in one window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, Sufi said: I disagree. We leaned very heavily on the same small group of players this season and had great success doing so. A red card, an injury etc could be the difference next season. I think part of the reason those numbers are so low...and part of the reason we relied on the same 16 guys is because howe doesnt trust the fellas at the end of the bench. He's hinted at it recently in terms of him leaning heavily on certain players and barely limping across the finish line. We wont get away with that next season. Even if we can its not a smart risk to take. We cant replace 3 fullbacks and 2 wingers with one player. Ok, but you're still limited in terms of squad numbers. We had 25 this season, I'm fairly sure we'll have to add Gordon now because he's 22 so that's 26. If we sign nine more players thats 35 so who are the ten on the current squad list you're moving on? Bearing in mind you've got the likes of Hayden, Hendrick and Darlow who are technically still on the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: Ignoring signings like Kuol who are for the future I think it will be like last summer, where people expected loads of signings and we only made 4 (1 of which was already here and the other was done late in the window and more opportunistic) I accept being a CL club changes things and perhaps easier to sign the level of player we want but I genuinely don't think Howe would want 5+ players in one window This could be an approach, yes we have money but the pools we are fishing in and now different. It would hard to convince a player to join us other a real, Barca, PSG etc so keeping our powder dey until later and picking off players they pass over could be sensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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