gdm Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It seems that Cornet is off to West Hsm finally. @gdm I’m gonna end up looking like a twat when he is class for West Ham aren't I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, STM said: Absolutely. I'm still convinced that a surprise target will emerge. We'll probably end up offering Leeds £50m for Rodrigo with 3 minutes of the window left #panic #stillbetterthanWood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: You can see why as well, if we got say Cornet instead of Maddison it would feel like a bit of a let down Nah. Maddison was never on my radar so if we don't get him it will not be any big thing. Cornet looks capable of doing a job on the right wing and has the all important PL experience. My expectations are quite low, but I don't think we need too much in order to consolidate/take a small step up. I'm seriously wondering if all we have is £40 million left to spend. If we end up with Maddison for the whole wad then I'd be happy, tbh. Even with Wood up front, Miggy, Maddison and ASM playing off him would unsettle most defences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: I'm seriously wondering if all we have is £40 million left to spend. To be fair, it’s what we’ve been consistently told since Botman signed and the actions of the club seem to back that up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Although we have bid on numerous players, we've yet to bid over £40 million for anybody. Therefore it's difficult to assume we have more than £40 million available. Howe saying he was hopeful of 1/2 signings would also back this up. We either blow the full 40 on one player, like Maddison, or we get a couple of bargains/prospects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 40-60m left depending on which journalist you want to believe. Or infinity if you don’t want to believe any and go off gut instinct. Edited August 4, 2022 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Would anyone at the club ever tell a journalist what our budget actually is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Would anyone at the club ever tell a journalist what our budget actually is? If we've only got £40 million and a club wants 60 for somebody that could go, next season, for 30, it might work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I don't think for a second we only have 40m. I think we are only prepared to pay what believe a player is worth. I'm also certain the Maddison second bid was well in excess of 40m, even if it wasn't as high as 50m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Would anyone at the club ever tell a journalist what our budget actually is? Probably not but they would hint at what it roughly is. The stories of a £40m budget and add the stories we are looking at a loan on top of a permanent signing it seems to add up. The stories are coming from somewhere. I just didn’t buy in to the general feeling on here that if a player became available we’d spend big. I guess the proof will be in the pudding when it comes to Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Would anyone at the club ever tell a journalist what our budget actually is? You wouldn’t imagine so but they’re all saying roughly the same thing so something’s up. Or they’re all talking shit, which is feasible as well… Difficult to know. We’re seemingly much tighter-lipped but I also don’t subscribe to the idea that Ashworth has a North Korean style vice grip on all leaks coming out of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Would anyone at the club ever tell a journalist what our budget actually is? Yes, but only if it weren't true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, gdm said: Probably not but they would hint at what it roughly is. The stories of a £40m budget and add the stories we are looking at a loan on top of a permanent signing it seems to add up. The stories are coming from somewhere. I just didn’t buy in to the general feeling on here that if a player became available we’d spend big. I guess the proof will be in the pudding when it comes to Maddison. I think it's more likely that we spend 60m on two players than 50m on one. I don't think it's about a budget, just not going above a certain ceiling on one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Don’t understand the logic in supposedly not wanting Cornet for 17 million as he’s to expensive but wanting Harrison who will probably cost double that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Don’t understand the logic in supposedly not wanting Cornet for 17 million as he’s to expensive but wanting Harrison who will probably cost double that. The logic is that they rate Harrison higher. Whether he's worth twice as much is debatable. I'd say that he wasn't worth twice as much but then again we haven't signed either so clearly we don't agree with either valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, STM said: The logic is that they rate Harrison higher. Whether he's worth twice as much is debatable. I'd say that he wasn't worth twice as much but then again we haven't signed either so clearly we don't agree with either valuation. Exactly and to add on, maybe Cornet doesn’t fit Howe’s system the way they feel Harrison would. Given that, I don’t think either are our first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I don't think Cornet will fit in with the type of team ethos we're seeking to build tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Waugh has said that Cornet was "further down the list" and we haven't yet formalised our interest in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Waugh has said that Cornet was "further down the list" and we haven't yet formalised our interest in him. Goes completely against what Hope was reporting earlier in the week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, toon25 said: I don't think Cornet will fit in with the type of team ethos we're seeking to build tbh. Based on what? Have you ever watched him outside of Burnley? This is such a strange comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I wouldn't say we've miscalculated in getting two CB's at all? Last season we had Clark, Fernandez, Lascelles and Schar as our CB's, the first two where clearly not good enough, and one of them was our only left sided CB, it was an area that very much needed refreshing. Now we have two right sided CB's and two left sided CB's that can compete,and any combination can come in and do a decent job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, toon25 said: I don't think Cornet will fit in with the type of team ethos we're seeking to build tbh. What is this based on? I've noticed an interesting trend about assumptions people have about players' characters that I will keep to myself for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, The College Dropout said: What is this based on? I've noticed an interesting trend about assumptions people have about players' characters that I will keep to myself for now. I think he's suggesting that Cornet plays as an individual, rather than a team player. I don't think he's making assumptions on his personality but more on the type of player he is on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, STM said: I think he's suggesting that Cornet plays as an individual, rather than a team player. I don't think he's making assumptions on his personality but more on the type of player he is on the pitch. ethos /ˈiːθɒs/ noun the characteristic spirit of a culture, era, or community as manifested in its attitudes and aspirations. The words he has used are talking about attitudes and aspirations. That's an assumption on his personality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, toon25 said: I don't think Cornet will fit in with the type of team ethos we're seeking to build tbh. Not sure I agree. He’s a tireless runner with great close control, technique and a mean left-foot. He’s a bargain at the prices being quoted. His downside imo is that perhaps his passing, while good, isn’t at the top-tier level where you think he’ll create a good chance whenever he’s on the ball (I really think we’re lacking that quality in the wide areas currently). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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