Barnes23 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 FFP is a myth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just now, Jack27 said: FFP is a myth Seems disproportionately levered towards the top 6, who built their squads/infrastructure/club/sponsorships without having the constraints of FFP, yes. A myth though? No. Which is why we can’t splash the same money as Chelsea/Man City/Man Utd etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jack27 said: FFP is a myth Not according to several clubs this season, they’ve made more changes then they have over the last decade I believe. It was naturally changed straight after our take over so all eyes will be on us. Edited December 29, 2022 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 It just seems to be a myth to Chelsea and Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jack27 said: FFP is a myth It's not a myth, but it's a mechanism that serves the cartel. The big six's revenue dwarfs everyone elses, so they can pretty much spend what they want and comply with FFP. They've doubled down now with the related party transaction stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, PeepShow4life said: It just seems to be a myth to Chelsea and Barca. Chelsea income 20/21 was nearly €500m. Ours was about 150m. You can spend according to what you bring in, which is why increased sponsorship and commercialisation is so crucial (as well as stadium expansion, to a degree). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: Chelsea income 20/21 was nearly €500m. Ours was about 150m. You can spend according to what you bring in, which is why increased sponsorship and commercialisation is so crucial (as well as stadium expansion, to a degree). And turning reserve etc into a larger revenue stream with larger loan fees. Chelsea make tons doing this I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just now, Gawalls said: And turning reserve etc into a larger revenue stream with larger loan fees. Chelsea make tons doing this I reckon. Not just loan fees, but a huge source of income is selling the young players that they’ve stockpiled and never played. We will start to do that too, I’m sure, as a source of income, as the club develops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: Not just loan fees, but a huge source of income is selling the young players that they’ve stockpiled and never played. We will start to do that too, I’m sure, as a source of income, as the club develops. As they say money breeds money - not that I’d ever know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It's not a myth, but it's a mechanism that serves the cartel. The big six's revenue dwarfs everyone elses, so they can pretty much spend what they want and comply with FFP. They've doubled down now with the related party transaction stuff. The NUFC rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Perrone to City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 That's such a shame! He'd have been a really good signing. Oh well, onto the next one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 He’s never going to get minutes there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Can't sign them all can we. On to our other targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 53 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It's not a myth, but it's a mechanism that serves the cartel. The big six's revenue dwarfs everyone elses, so they can pretty much spend what they want and comply with FFP. They've doubled down now with the related party transaction stuff. Of course its beneficial to the 'Big 6 (comical term imo)' they want to pull the bridge up behind them and hide behind all their 'Big 6' Revenue, most of which is creative accounting. Only way FFP gets involved is if its a threat to the status quo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Shame, first Santos and now this geezer. The South American market is mad competitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I don’t think there are any untapped markets any more tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, reefatoon said: He’s never going to get minutes there Probably not but they will still then somehow sell him for 25m in 2 years time after his 13 appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, reefatoon said: He’s never going to get minutes there Shipped around various City Group clubs then sent to Brighton, Southampton etc with a very favourable buy back clause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Numbers said: Of course its beneficial to the 'Big 6 (comical term imo)' they want to pull the bridge up behind them and hide behind all their 'Big 6' Revenue, most of which is creative accounting. Only way FFP gets involved is if its a threat to the status quo. You do know that the incredible alliance of NUFC and it's new owners will (reasonably soon) break the Septic Six Cartel FOR EVER. Our owners are very clever people, they will do what needs to be done and they ("we") will achieve what needs to be achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just now, manorpark said: You do know that the incredible alliance of NUFC and it's new owners will (reasonably soon) break the Septic Six Cartel FOR EVER. Our owners are very clever people, they will do what needs to be done and they ("we") will achieve what needs to be achieved. There is definitely going to be some upset if we do end up top 4 this season. They weren’t expecting it that quickly and thought they could freeze us out financially. outside of city and Chelsea’s ridiculous spending, there probably isn’t enough money to go around outside of the cl places. One of them will potentially implode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 The bigger we get and the higher the calibre of player we go for. The more we'll see of this. It seems the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Man United lose out on players on the regular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 There a small pool of players that most of the bigger clubs are looking at, it's no suprise that we are going to miss a few targets: remember Ekitike and Eriksen? Keep our powder dry and do our work behind the scenes and we will find the players we want. We took time with Botman and got him. Other clubs snoozed on Isak so we moved for him. It will be no different this time. I'd be shocked if Ashworth and Co weren't already making enquiries about players we have already been linked with. Just when we think nothing is going to happen, we will get a deal done for someone. Don't expect anything until the end of the window though, so we still have some waiting to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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