Deuce Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Off the top of my head I can't think of any white players I'd describe off-the-cuff as "powerful" tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Off the top of my head I can't think of any white players I'd describe off-the-cuff as "powerful" tbh Neil Ruddock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Nemanja Matic, Nemanja Vidic and Nemanja Onwuatuegwu-Dembélé are 3 that spring to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Vinnie Jones maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Jon Parkin. Although there's probably a line somewhere between powerful & fat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Nemanja Matic, Nemanja Vidic and Nemanja Onwuatuegwu-Dembélé are 3 that spring to mind. hero of Serbo-Malian-Nigerians everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Adnan januzaj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Power means speed and strength combined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's literally a chant related to his skin colour, based on a reductionist stereotype. There's no defence for it. No one would make similar comments/jokes outside of football or they'd get banged out. The IQ of the people who are calling talk sport to defend it, is very telling. Correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's not as bad as the Park song they sang for a decade and neebody batted an eyelid at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ronaldo constantly gets described as powerful or a powerhouse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Cronaldo is really powerful but obviously has more to his game. Sissoko is probably the player that is most easily described as powerful as he isn't that good at anything else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's not as bad as the Park song they sang for a decade and neebody batted an eyelid at that. You're just pitching underarm with that, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ibrahimovic, Bale, Matic, Hulk, Costa. I think the theory's bollocks tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's not as bad as the Park song they sang for a decade and neebody batted an eyelid at that. You're just pitching underarm with that, like. I have no idea what that means, but I disagree profoundly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just to add to the stereotyping, lots of German players have been white and powerful over the years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's powerhouse that is definitely reserved for black players, powerful does include some white players, didn't you get the memo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Powerhouse has essentially replaced 'beast' with regards to black players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's pretty obvious that black players are almost always compared to other black players more often than not, regardless of their actual playing attributes. "Big, black central midfielder? Reminds me of Yaya Toure." I'm sure Sissoko was probably compared favorably to Yaya at some point, despite being completely different types of players. It's lazy at best. *someone digs up a Deuce post favorably comparing Sissoko to Yaya Toure* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's not as bad as the Park song they sang for a decade and neebody batted an eyelid at that. well yeah, is progress a bad thing like? Hmm, I wouldn't necessarily agree that the BANNING of an innocuous, clearly affectionately intended song is progress. Too PC for my liking. Having said that, it does seem to have genuinely offended someone at Kick it Out, so I am quite probably in the wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It would be fair enough if they'd been using it on Rob Earnshaw and Aaron Lennon and not using it for Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Matic. Does it apply to Drogba, Sissoko, Yaya Toure? Of course it does. They don't even use it for Kante, who's powerful as fuck. Physically strong, tall or 'stocky' players are going to get called powerful or powerhouses and a proportion of players within that description are black. It's circumstantial as far as I'm concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 it's rare that you get a black player who looks like Adam Llalana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It would be fair enough if they'd been using it on Rob Earnshaw and Aaron Lennon and not using it for Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Matic. Does it apply to Drogba, Sissoko, Yaya Toure? Of course it does. They don't even use it for Kante, who's powerful as f***. Physically strong, tall or 'stocky' players are going to get called powerful or powerhouses and a proportion of players within that description are black. It's circumstantial as far as I'm concerned. They did only a week or so ago was pointed out on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's pretty obvious that black players are almost always compared to other black players more often than not, regardless of their actual playing attributes. "Big, black central midfielder? Reminds me of Yaya Toure." I'm sure Sissoko was probably compared favorably to Yaya at some point, despite being completely different types of players. It's lazy at best. *someone digs up a Deuce post favorably comparing Sissoko to Yaya Toure* That's a two way street tbf. White players don't exactly get compared with black players. I dunno why it's seen as a problem that there are obvious differences and similarities that aren't just simply 'ah they're both black' - no one's comparing Drogba and Sammy Ameobi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It would be fair enough if they'd been using it on Rob Earnshaw and Aaron Lennon and not using it for Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Matic. Does it apply to Drogba, Sissoko, Yaya Toure? Of course it does. They don't even use it for Kante, who's powerful as f***. Physically strong, tall or 'stocky' players are going to get called powerful or powerhouses and a proportion of players within that description are black. It's circumstantial as far as I'm concerned. They did only a week or so ago was pointed out on here Someone called Kante a powerhouse? Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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