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On 13/05/2022 at 09:05, reefatoon said:

 

Lovely to see, well done Shaka.

 

Oh and Hayley.........

 

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I’m a monster, couldn’t get the phrase “freedom of the titty” out of my head.

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Am I making it up or did someone call Andy Cole ‘Blackie Milburn’. I really hope I’m not making it up because that means I’ve imagined it and that’d be horrible.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Am I making it up or did Sir John Hall call Andy Cole ‘Blackie Milburn’. I really hope I’m not making it up because that means I’ve imagined it and that’d be horrible.

 

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/greatest-individual-seasons-andy-cole-brings-goals-newcastle-199394

 

"But aside from the fact that he wasn’t a centre-forward in the traditional St James’ Park mould – although he did have a sinewy strength that belied his slight frame – there was another notable difference between Cole and previous Gallowgate End legends. “If you'd said 10 years ago that the hero of the Toon Army would be a black lad, you would probably have got some pretty strange looks,” explained Newcastle fanzine The Mag, perhaps recalling another striker, Tony Cunningham, who was cruelly nicknamed ‘Blackie Milburn’ less than a decade earlier."

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“MUCH-TRAVELLED striker Tony Cunningham had a “Where are they now” piece – he’s now a solicitor in Lincoln – in last weekend’s Sunday Times.

Particularly he recalled his time with Newcastle United under Jack Charlton, a manager infamous for never remembering players’ name. Usually they were either Big Lad or Little Lad.

Cunningham was different.

“He called me Blackie Milburn, but meant no offence by it,” he says.”

 

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/backtrack/backtrack/8824567.tributes-bill-shankly-annfield/?action=complain&cid=9116231

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I remember SJH saying something along the lines of how when Ferdinand came to his house he was standing in front of something black and he couldn't see him. Proper standard stereotypical casual racism from that generation. 

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Darkie originated from workers going down the mines and coming out, well, dark. 

 

 

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John Barnes is on record saying racism towards him wasn’t half as bad as it was towards any foreign player black or white and homophobia was even worse. I’m an 80s child and love the music from that era and had a good time growing up in general, but it was a grim time even for the whiteies, the working class that is. I imagine it was fucking awful for those non white, in football or general society.

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Yous all need to read up on Walter Tull, I’m sure the BBC did a canny documentary and a kind of series on his life and times. Great story and what a legend and hero.

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17 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

Always liked Tony Cunningham. Can't remember why but I took an instant shine to him. Don't remember him pulling up any trees. I think I just liked the fact that it was a big fuck off to the NF lot.

And he put a shift in. When your team isn't good you can at least appreciate effort.

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