João Pedro

[Joelinton7]

5 minutes ago, NSG said:

Something like the below would be a transformational window. 
 

In
Elanga

JP

Guehi

Trafford

Ramsey 

 

Out

Kelly

Willock

Barnes

Pope

 

 

Got a feeling we’ll keep Wilson and Longstaff for one more year.

Sell Barnes but keep Longstaff 

[KaKa]

7 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

I think Diaz will have to leave for them to consider Gordon and they have already apparently told Barca that he's not for sale. Plus Diaz is way better than Gordon.

 

Luis Diaz has been made available.

 

He rejected a big money move to Saudi, which was Liverpool's preference for obvious reasons.

 

But Diaz wants to go to Barca, who are not offering anywhere near what Saudi were, and so Liverpool don't want to deal with Barca.

[Theregulars]

8 minutes ago, STM said:

 

Yeah and I think there's a big difference between a club looking to sell their star striker but also being smart enough to see future problems in the potential for his absence.

 

Having JP and Isak playing together for a couple of seasons before (the sadly inevitable) cashing in on Isak, seems a sensible enough strategy and if Isak does stay, great.

Completely agree with you. Very logical signing all things considered. 
 

Brighton know how to make a profit though, he’ll take up 1/4-1/3 of the budget I think.

[ExiledGeordie]

I think he’d be a really solid signing for what he’d cost how the hell would he be able to cover the other key positions?

[Mike]

Where's the youtube compilation at like.

[NSG]

11 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Sell Barnes but keep Longstaff 

Longstaff as 6th choice midfielder and UEFA quota jobby only.

 

 

[Ikon]

One thing that is massive if we sign him is having someone centrally in the last third that is a massive threat, and not alone, playing with Isak further ahead. 
 

With JP getting the ball high up the pitch it will force the opposition defence to be dragged out of shape which itself will give Isak much more space in the more central areas. JP often takes a man out with a first touch and turn which will give us and Isak so much more space and also not being forced to come too deep. 
 

We all know how good Bruno’s and Tonali’s quick and progressive passes can be, and having Pedro there much closer to them will make it much easier for them to do this more often. 
 

As it is now when we only have Isak centrally he either can get very isolated or has to come quite deep for the build up. This often results in that he can’t really be a a threat centrally as often as we’d like. With Isak coming deep it also indirectly makes us become more predictable as that results in us having to go wide most of the time because we don’t have a player up there when Isak comes deep. 
 

Quite often the space between our CM and Isak is a bit too vast. Unless he comes deep as mentioned. Also having two players in central areas further upp could also force the opponent defence to compress which at times will give our wide players more space. Makes it more difficult for the opposition either way. 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 13:51 by Ikon

[joeyt]

46 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Just a gut feeling if we are actually looking at Elanga and Pedro.

 

I'm cool either way. Whether we keep or sell anyone. They just need to be all on board with the plan.

 

Just thinking out loud.

 

 

 

 

Do you think we'd have to bring another left winger in if we sold Gordon?

 

Or just rely on Barnes with Pedro, Joelinton being able to play there? Not sure I'd be keen on that

[KingArthur]

Pedro and Elanga. Two players we end up overpaying and with PSR problems in a year or 2.  

[Ketsbaia]

[Nine]

Pedro and Elanga is very solid Howe like business, I personally wouldn’t have a problem with a ~£120m fee outlay between the two.

 

Man our attack looks more fluid with Pedro involved, it gives us much more option to switch it up depending on opposition. 4-2-3-1 with Pedro behind Isak is disgusting.

 

Also hopefully Howe could have better control of this nutter 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 14:11 by Nine

[SteV]

3 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

“It’s fucking 14 in Brazil, man”

[Displayname]

All i want to know is this a guy that can break down a low block?

[Joelinton7]

43 minutes ago, NSG said:

Longstaff as 6th choice midfielder and UEFA quota jobby only.

 

 

But a sale would be pure profit. We’d probably replace with that Rudoni from Coventry. 

[macphisto]

31 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

Pedro and Elanga. Two players we end up overpaying and with PSR problems in a year or 2.  

We're always going to have PSR problems where they'll be low and highs regarding transfer Windows until our income dramatically increases. 

[Emotic]

Buy 'em all and gamble Man City win every one of their charges and this PSR/FFP nonsense is blown right out the water.

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, macphisto said:

We're always going to have PSR problems where they'll be low and highs regarding transfer Windows until our income dramatically increases. 

But slowly always on an upward trajectory!

[Stottie]

fwiw here's the Joao Pedro season heatmap for Brighton in the PL.

 

Mitoma's heatmap gloriously hugs the left touchline, so Pedro has been floating inside that.

The above is Sofascore and here's where Transfermarkt think Pedro's been lining up.

 

I like Pedro as a player and don't mind the suggested price tag based on what Spurs had to pay for Solanke. We've had our eye on him for ages so we must know what he can do. Based on the above heatmap alone though, this would make extra sense if we're moving on someone who plays mostly on the left. Our squad is already left side heavy.

 

[The College Dropout]

I like this a lot and it compliments an Elanga transfer. 

[SteV]

This is from the Athletic Brighton reporter the other day. Seems to think they’ll sell:

 

Spoiler

It is tempting to wonder whether Brighton & Hove Albion need the hassle that comes with Joao Pedro after ending an encouraging first season under head coach Fabian Hurzeler with a 4-1 win at new Europa League champions Tottenham Hotspur.

And yet the Brazilian forward’s absence from their storming comeback on Sunday raised more questions than answers about his future at the club.

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Joao Pedro was also left out of the previous game, a 3-2 home defeat of title winners Liverpool, by Hurzeler for disciplinary reasons following an altercation in training with team-mate Jan Paul van Hecke revealed last week by The Athletic.

Against Tottenham, Hurzeler deployed Jack Hinshelwood and Brajan Gruda as twin false nines, with Danny Welbeck joining Georginio Rutter (ankle) on the injured list because of an unspecified minor issue, while Julio Enciso (Ipswich Town) and Evan Ferguson (West Ham United) completed loan spells elsewhere in the day’s closing fixtures in the Premier League.

Hinshelwood, Brighton’s late matchwinner from the bench against Liverpool last Monday, scored with two close-range finishes from corners in the 51st and 64th minutes, the first a shot into the roof of the net, the second an impudent backheel.

The depth of the squad was further highlighted by further goals from substitutes in the closing stages. Matt O’Riley acted successfully as third-choice penalty taker in the absence of both Joao Pedro and Welbeck, while Diego Gomez stylishly curled in his first goal for the club from 25 yards in added time, following the Paraguay midfielder’s move from MLS side Inter Miami in January.

So, where does this all leave Joao Pedro?

He was a candidate to attract transfer interest in the looming summer window before the spat with Van Hecke. A volatile temperament is unlikely to deter potential suitors from pursuing a proven Premier League goalscorer who, at age 23, still has scope for improvement.

There were mixed messages from Hurzeler in his pre-game press conference on Friday. Playing down the incident as a “small issue” of the type that “isn’t uncommon from time to time at all clubs”, he said the matter had been dealt with internally and “is closed”.

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Hurzeler also confirmed Joao Pedro would not be involved against Tottenham.

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A two-match disciplinary punishment for a key player when Brighton were pursuing Europe in the season’s final week (finishing eighth was not enough for them to reach the Conference League) seems severe if that incident with Van Hecke was as trivial and routine as the head coach implied.

Selling Joao Pedro if a big offer materialises and reinvesting funds could be tempting (Steve Bardens/Getty Images)

Hurzeler also spoke of Joao Pedro being an “incredible footballer” who is still young and can learn from the incident, but mentioned in the same breath principles that are “non-negotiable”, with no room for compromise.

One of the biggest strengths of Brighton’s player recruitment strategy is not just identifying targets they can develop to increase their value but also knowing the right time to sell those they do sign. Joao Pedro has three years left on his contract. An offer, for argument’s sake, which doubles the £30million investment Brighton made when buying him from Championship side Watford two years ago would demand attention and give the club a decision to make.

The biggest problem if they part company with Joao Pedro this summer would be replacing his goals. He has scored 30 of Brighton’s 157 across all competitions over the past two seasons in his 70 appearances. That is a personal average of a goal every 2.3 games, while almost 20 per cent of the goals scored by the team is a big chunk as an overall contribution from one player. He has also provided 10 assists, which comes out as a goal involvement every 1.75 matches.

On top of that, Brighton would be losing an expert at penalties. Half of Joao Pedro’s goals have come from the spot. His only failure in 16 attempts still led to him heading the only goal of the game from the rebound following a save by Aston Villa’s Robin Olsen towards the end of last season. He has also won nine penalties.

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Another of his attributes is his versatility. He can operate as a No 9, although he is more effective as a roaming No 10, with a tendency to drop deep and wide at times to get on the ball to link the play or embark on a weaving run.

So much for the good stuff.

The downside has been highlighted by the clash with Van Hecke, Brighton’s player of the season. Joao Pedro was regarded as the aggressor in the incident by Hurzeler, and while he was left out of the past two matches, Van Hecke played a full part in both.

Joao Pedro’s volatility can be a liability.

The incident with Van Hecke happened in the build-up to the 2-0 away win against Wolverhampton Wanderers in Brighton’s penultimate away game of the season, a fixture which marked the completion of a three-match suspension for the South American.

He had been sent off for violent conduct in a 4-2 defeat at Brentford last month for lashing out at opposition defender Nathan Collins. Considering the circumstances — Brighton were losing 3-1 to a direct rival for European qualification, but there was half an hour of the match still to play — Joao Pedro losing his head did not go down well with team-mates or Hurzeler.

The head coach places great importance on togetherness and squad harmony. Anybody who disrupts that mantra with their behaviour will not be tolerated. Enciso was shipped out on loan in January after the Paraguayan had been omitted from the squad for two matches the previous month. That was because of Enciso’s “mindset in training” and because he is more of an individual than a team player.

The front line has already been added to for next season with the signing in January of 19-year-old Greek prospect Stefanos Tzimas — he was loaned straight back to selling club Nurnberg, in Germany’s second tier, for the rest of the campaign.

Selling Joao Pedro if a big offer materialises and reinvesting those funds on further strengthening could be tempting in the circumstances.

 

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, St1pe said:

I might be wrong here but isn’t only ever really used as a forward though? My understanding is when he’s been deployed as a 10 there hasn’t been a forward like Isak in front of him for example?

Yeh he plays behind Welbeck. &nbsp

[KingArthur]

11 minutes ago, macphisto said:

We're always going to have PSR problems where they'll be low and highs regarding transfer Windows until our income dramatically increases. 

True, but just that we have pretty much no one to sell soon enough, and I wouldn't like us to handcuff ourselves with these to players. They are good players but not top4.

[The College Dropout]

We need a squad man. 

[Ellis H]

38 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

 

 

https://streamin.me/v/53a8a7a3

 

 

Plenty of this stuff plus loads of diving and he missed the last 2 Brighton games for having a fight with a teammate. He’d be the second coming of Bellamy and the death of the no dickheads rule.

 

[The College Dropout]

If we have JP and Elanga and keep our attacking options we have a chance of requalifying for the CL. We need genuine depth. That does require good players sitting on the bench on occasion.  We’ll went to play 55 games or so.