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Alexander Isak - C*nt (resting his glass bones so he can get properly injured at the world cup)


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54 minutes ago, toontownman said:

I got zero issues with him playing again if he u-turns. Members of the squad might. 

 

Its part of football and generally all agent driven. Plus we love a good redemption arc. 

 

I do think we will sell him if we get 140m with some ad ons. He is going now or next summer regardless. Now it's out there I'd rather its him than the likes of Bruno/Tonali. We will need to sell someone for big money sooner or later.

As long as he works hard and scores goals, I think his teammates will forgive him. As for selling him, I couldn't care if jizzerpool offer 160 million, it's the principle, the way they've went about it,it doesn't sit right with me so we simply can't sell to them. We'll still get a good chunk of cash next summer if clubs that are struggling financially now suddenly find money under the couch cushions and we get a bidding war. He'd still have 2 years on his contract and I think a season of 20+ goals is worth a  30-50 million loss (maybe not even that much if we get that elusive bidding war).

 

It looks like he's staying now anyway,as there isn't a replacement. We can replace Wilson but not Isak. 

 

So fuck off Liverpool. He'll stay, score against them and no doubt kiss the badge. I'll applaud but he's took it too far for any idolism to reamerge. 

 

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25 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

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Probably a massive Giggs but I cba going back through all the posts in here but is this what you were on about Paully?

 

Saw it was posted on social media yesterday

So Isak downed tools in March, wanting nothing to do with us, and then appeared in the video for the 3rd kit launch which was filmed end of June?

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There’s not a world where I’d give him more money and a contract extension with a release clause. The release clause would be shared with multiple clubs within seconds and it wouldn’t be set at the price we want for him. Just let the dickhead face the reality that he’s got three years left and we’re still going to get a ridiculous fee for him in a year’s time then ask him whether we wants to play football and have people interested in him or whether he wants to be a pathetic little bitch that’s hated by his own fans and who everyone in football thinks has completely lost the plot 

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43 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Feels like Isak's agent has probably been told by Liverpool "Sorry pal, it hasn't worked out. Have you seen how much Newcastle are asking??!" 

Even the pasta shagger has said Liverpool will target a winger if they can’t get Isak , seems to be a change in tact/softening up 

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36 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

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Probably a massive Giggs but I cba going back through all the posts in here but is this what you were on about Paully?

 

Saw it was posted on social media yesterday

Posted by who? Unless they are a reliable source this sounds like pure fantasy from someone wanting to stir the pot.

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37 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

530458880_1305784298214028_3419455860282

 

Probably a massive Giggs but I cba going back through all the posts in here but is this what you were on about Paully?

 

Saw it was posted on social media yesterday

Posted by who? Unless they are a reliable source this sounds like pure fantasy from someone wanting to stir the pot.

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Just now, Matt1892 said:

If they come in for Gordon we should demand £110 million.

They’re not going to come in for anyone from us. We’ve humiliated them on this one, they were arrogant enough to think they could lowball and get it through with the press and Isak acting like a spoilt brat. They’ve realised that’s not going to work now and that they don’t actually have the money to do the deal. Enjoy Ekitike lads, let’s hope his attitude doesn’t get out of hand too quickly 

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12 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

So Isak downed tools in March, wanting nothing to do with us, and then appeared in the video for the 3rd kit launch which was filmed end of June?

Don't think he was putting in 100% effort in the video, tbh.  Not much enthusiasm in his "Hey, Tino!:

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41 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

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Probably a massive Giggs but I cba going back through all the posts in here but is this what you were on about Paully?

 

Saw it was posted on social media yesterday

Why did he bury the pen against Brighton that essentially gave us the point needed to get into the champions league, yeah I call bullshit on that one 

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2 minutes ago, Harry 209 said:

The idea of Isak 'downing tools' afterthought cup is utter rubbish.

No way would he be willing to damage his reputation as a world class player by being deliberately shite for 10 games. 

It didn't look as if he was exactly busting a gut.  And he only scored 2 goals from open play.

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4 minutes ago, Harry 209 said:

The idea of Isak 'downing tools' afterthought cup is utter rubbish.

No way would he be willing to damage his reputation as a world class player by being deliberately shite for 10 games. 


yeah because famously no player in the history of football has took the foot off the gas to avoid injury before a big move, a cup final or major international tournament. Nope. Never happened 

 

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19 minutes ago, gbandit said:

There’s not a world where I’d give him more money and a contract extension with a release clause. The release clause would be shared with multiple clubs within seconds and it wouldn’t be set at the price we want for him. Just let the dickhead face the reality that he’s got three years left and we’re still going to get a ridiculous fee for him in a year’s time then ask him whether we wants to play football and have people interested in him or whether he wants to be a pathetic little bitch that’s hated by his own fans and who everyone in football thinks has completely lost the plot 

 

If we can afford it/have the PSR room then I think we need to. Isak has been a cunt on this occasion but not a good look on our part for future talents or even our best players now, where they'd have to look elsewhere if they want paid the best in the world salaries. 

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2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

If we can afford it/have the PSR room then I think we need to. Isak has been a cunt on this occasion but not a good look on our part for future talents or even our best players now, where they'd have to look elsewhere if they want paid the best in the world salaries. 


It’s certainly a delicate balance to manage. Quite fascinated how it will pan out over next 3wks and 12 months. 

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3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

If we can afford it/have the PSR room then I think we need to. Isak has been a cunt on this occasion but not a good look on our part for future talents or even our best players now, where they'd have to look elsewhere if they want paid the best in the world salaries. 

I disagree personally. The work we do with the rest of the squad is separate to this and if we remain successful we’ll keep attracting the best talent or being in for them. We already can’t pay the best salaries because of PSR. The idea of further damaging our financial position for a player who has done Eve turning possible to fuck us is just not an option in my mind. Maybe I’m too emotional about it but it just doesn’t make business sense to me either 

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It's probably a coping mechanism but I've got a feeling that this summer is peak value and just maybe he's been a little over hyped this season.

 

Yes Isak has all the tools to be one of the elite, but cold hard facts are that despite his undoubted talent he can go missing, lacks a bit of stamina, be a little inconsistent, gets niggly injuries and has now shown a sub optimal personality for a team sport.

 

Of course when he signs the new deal akd scores a few this goes out the window and he is the best player in the world. As I say, coping mechanism!

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I think he has to go, he's burnt too many bridges and I think it might have an effect on the dressing room if he stays. As Howe has said many times before, we need to protect that at all costs.

Who do we get after Wissa? I'm really not sure I personally would take Jackson at a reasonable price.

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1 hour ago, GideonShandy said:

 

Let's say he signs a new deal exactly as you've described.

 

How would we be any better off next summer, if he kicks off again the same way he has this summer?

 

The only justification for a new contract would be if you think that (1) it'll put him in such a better frame of mind that he decides he wants to stay after all and give 100% and (2) it won't infuriate the rest of the playing staff.

A release clause inserted into it would be likely demanded and also give the player the confidence that if a big club comes in next summer they can trigger it and he’s off.  

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18 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

It's probably a coping mechanism but I've got a feeling that this summer is peak value and just maybe he's been a little over hyped this season.

 

Yes Isak has all the tools to be one of the elite, but cold hard facts are that despite his undoubted talent he can go missing, lacks a bit of stamina, be a little inconsistent, gets niggly injuries and has now shown a sub optimal personality for a team sport.

 

Of course when he signs the new deal akd scores a few this goes out the window and he is the best player in the world. As I say, coping mechanism!

 

My gut feeling, and I hope it isn't true, is that Isak will ultimately be remembered as one of the many "if he had stayed fit he could have been one of the best to ever do it" players.

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5 minutes ago, Miercoles said:

 

My gut feeling, and I hope it isn't true, is that Isak will ultimately be remembered as one of the many "if he had stayed fit he could have been one of the best to ever do it" players.

Think we are getting a bit carried away with the Isak injury stuff. He missed 4 league games the season just gone and 8 the season before. Only 12 games out of 76. He played 42 games in all competitions last season and 40 the season before 

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It's gone beyond Isak, what he did, where he ends up and how much money we ultimately get for him.

This is quite pivotal and the cub can't appear to buckle. If we do, we may as well forget about ambitions of being a major player at the top end of football.

We do what's best for us under our terms.

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29 minutes ago, Benwell Lad said:

It's gone beyond Isak, what he did, where he ends up and how much money we ultimately get for him.

This is quite pivotal and the cub can't appear to buckle. If we do, we may as well forget about ambitions of being a major player at the top end of football.

We do what's best for us under our terms.

Sets the tone for all future dealings. Has to be this.

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