Happinesstan Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, KaKa said: We can't afford to have him doing too much of that as we would have no one in the box that can finish. Not to mention we had more than enough of the ball in forward areas, and so didn't need him dropping in just for the sake of it. Obviously it's a balance but today was the day to do it more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Was crying for him to make a run at the near post today. Keeper played well but we made it too easy for him with no movement in the box. Actually felt Wilson would have got on the end of one of them today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palestoon Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 7 hours ago, KaKa said: We can't afford to have him doing too much of that as we would have no one in the box that can finish. Not to mention we had more than enough of the ball in forward areas, and so didn't need him dropping in just for the sake of it. Ideally, I would agree, but with the set up we had today it was never going to work, and that became clear very early on. their fullbacks had no respect for for fraser/almiron. they stayed tight on them all game knowing neither were capable of beating their man and getting into dangerous positions. That led to the ball being recycled, and lofted crosses into the box from poor positions that Isak was never going to win against 2 CBs. I think him coming deeper, picking up the ball and using his pace/dribbling would have helped break them down and pull some players out of position. For all of the possession we had, Bournemouth never looked uncomfortable all game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Absolutely zero creativity for him from the flanks from Miggy and Fraser and midfield wasn’t much better. I think he suffered from our lack of movement and without ASM we created no space so the CBs just crowded him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Happinesstan said: I'm rating him on saying no to Trippier then banging home his penalty. A lot of confidence. Needs to impose himself on the game more, drop back to let other layers get into positions ahead of him. Once he started coming deep we really threatened them today, should have switched Almiron and Fraser for more chances at a quick cross. Played a lovely ball to the right channel at one point, can't remember who to. The nominated penalty taker should always take the pens for me.If you had two players on a brace,and the regular penalty needing another goal to hit the twenty goal mark for the season,who takes the pen if all three are full of confidence about scoring? It’s the managers job to select a regular penalty taker,not a ‘ decide amongst yourselves’ moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Not got Wilson’s box movement. That sniff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I don't think that playing as an isolated striker suits him. He needs a Peter Beardsley type inside forward buzzing around him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He needs to be attacking from a deeper position or needs more creativity around to unlock defenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, La Parka said: He needs to be attacking from a deeper position or needs more creativity around to unlock defenses. Yeah I get the feeling he’ll be better picking the ball up and running at people as he’s good with his feet. Move him right of a 3 when Wilson is back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Watching some of the game back and this lad was involved in the best moments when moving away from his central spot. Praying Wilson is back for Fulham so we can get Isak in a freer role. Seems like the type of player you want getting touches as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Possibly moving to 4-4-1-1 with Isak playing behind Wilson. The same formation Keegan used with Beardsley behind Andy Cole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Lot of the football tactical analysis sources out there seem to think he could thrive in a secondary striker role where his starting position is wide by he’s able to drift and find space deeper to get the ball and run at defenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 6 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Not got Wilson’s box movement. That sniff. He's a different type of forward. Looks like he can finish, but Wilson is a goal hunter, watching yesterday, you couldn't help feeling he would have got on the end of one or two moves to get a goal. I know the service was abysmal, but Wilson usually finds a way. The goal against Forest was a prime example, nothing really on, but a couple of clever touches and bang, it's in the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Think when Wilson returns for another 3 games before getting injured again Isak will start alongside him; on a starting lineup it'll look like he's playing RW but he'll be a lot more central and closer to Wilson with Trippier providing the width as we saw yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Think when Wilson returns for another 3 games before getting injured again Isak will start alongside him; on a starting lineup it'll look like he's playing RW but he'll be a lot more central and closer to Wilson with Trippier providing the width as we saw yesterday. 3 games is optimistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Happinesstan Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRon said: He's a different type of forward. Looks like he can finish, but Wilson is a goal hunter, watching yesterday, you couldn't help feeling he would have got on the end of one or two moves to get a goal. I know the service was abysmal, but Wilson usually finds a way. The goal against Forest was a prime example, nothing really on, but a couple of clever touches and bang, it's in the net. His goal against forest was the only sniff he got all game, but it was created by Joelinton's overlap creating the space for him to attack. Edited September 18, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 55 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: His goal against forest was the only sniff he got all game, but it was created by Joelinton's overlap creating the space for him to attack. There was still plenty of work to do before that ends up in the net though. Classic Wilson once he gets the goal in his sights, he homes in like like a guidance missile. A Youtube collection of his goals for Newcastle would show some really inventive finishes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Kanji said: Exactly the setup a few of us had tried to explain in the Isak thread, with him having a more narrow free role on that right side, while people were crying that he couldn't play there because he's not a 'winger' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, TRon said: He's a different type of forward. Looks like he can finish, but Wilson is a goal hunter, watching yesterday, you couldn't help feeling he would have got on the end of one or two moves to get a goal. I know the service was abysmal, but Wilson usually finds a way. The goal against Forest was a prime example, nothing really on, but a couple of clever touches and bang, it's in the net. Aye. I love the Wilson type personally. I hope Isak learns that side of the game from Wilson. I feel a proper ST needs that goal hunter instinct. It’s what Marcus Rashford lacks that Sadio Mane has in abundance. Rashford might even be a better finisher. But Sadio is sharp in the box. Movement. Timing of runs. Making runs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, KaKa said: Exactly the setup a few of us had tried to explain in the Isak thread, with him having a more narrow free role on that right side, while people were crying that he couldn't play there because he's not a 'winger' Aye, because a random twitter account dotted down a forward arrow on Trippier one of the few times he was so advanced compared to the ball it now makes perfect sense to slot Isak out wide. Thanks for the clarification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Him behind Wilson would be interesting Something like ------------Pope---------------- Trips - Schar - Botman - Targett -------------Shelvey------------ -------Bruno-----Joelinton----- --------------------------ASM-- ----<--Isak-->------------------ -----------------Wilson--------- Edited September 18, 2022 by HawK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Conjo said: Aye, because a random twitter account dotted down a forward arrow on Trippier one of the few times he was so advanced compared to the ball it now makes perfect sense to slot Isak out wide. Thanks for the clarification How people can watch so much football and not understand such simple concepts is really beyond me. You should maybe also go and listen to Trippier's interview before the game discussing Isak, where he talks about him being able to play across the front line on the left, right and upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, TRon said: There was still plenty of work to do before that ends up in the net though. Classic Wilson once he gets the goal in his sights, he homes in like like a guidance missile. A Youtube collection of his goals for Newcastle would show some really inventive finishes. That goes without saying. But it's not the point I was making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: That goes without saying. But it's not the point I was making. I know the point you were making, but I'm of the opinion as a natural no 9, Wilson attacks spaces that gets him goals even in games where he isn't involved much. How many times have you seen him even this season making late runs into the box and then gesticulating to the wide men with both arms at his feet that they should have played him in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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