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One thing that i'm trying to use in my favor atm is that despite how damn good he has been he's still been inconsistent at times. Mainly because of his fitness issues last season at least.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Mistakes have been made, but it’s really poor from Isak too. If this was his stance, communicate it internally at the end of the season and allow us to strategise with the money. It could have made a huge difference in nabbing some of the targets we missed. Trafford would already be done

 

Every chance Isak/the players were led to believe that this was the summer where we properly take off and pack the squad with some quality additions. Given the window as been a total mess since day 1 then it's probably made Isak think twice, especially with Liverpool sniffing.

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Depends if you think he’ll never play again if he stays. I don’t think that would happen, he would sulk for a bit and then come back in. 
 

It won’t happen like but I would love to see the club flex its muscles a bit. 

You’re right, but that’s the risk - but I think once this happens the club will try to get the most possible and send him on his way

 

I’m not even angry nor surprised by any of this - the current squad was never likely to be a long term one, and we bought players to flip them for big profit - but I’d have liked to see him in B&W for one more season.  I’m confident we’ll spend the profit well - though that confidence is sapping daily

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1 minute ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Mistakes have been made, but it’s really poor from Isak too. If this was his stance, communicate it internally at the end of the season and allow us to strategise with the money. It could have made a huge difference in nabbing some of the targets we missed. Trafford would already be done

 

 

He might have communicated it for all we know. Or maybe all this has come about because Liverpool have suddenly thrown their hat in the ring. 

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Sadly, him openly wanting to leave means it's likely going to be for less than his value. In my mind it's becoming increasingly likely to be £120-30m to Liverpool. And for me, it will be another example of the corruption and anti-competitiveness of the Premier League, as we're backed into this corner in large part because we're simply unable to offer him the wages he deserves, even just for a year to appease him.

Not only are we not allowed to truly compete, but we're also unlikely to get full value for our players when we do come to selling as we don't come from a position of strength. I don't mind selling, but I do mind getting rinsed.

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Anywhere but Liverpool tbh. Really hate how weak we look at the moment, like we can just have our best player plucked from us because a few grifter "journalists" (Romano) whip up a media storm that says so.

 

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1 minute ago, Ikon said:

One thing that i'm trying to use in my favor atm is that despite how damn good he has been he's still been inconsistent at times. Mainly because of his fitness issues last season at least.

 

 

 

Yeah same, his stamina is awful and it's probably possible to find a striker who'll give us similar over a season. At his best at a club which can manage his minutes better though he'll be the best on the planet.

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Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

You’re right, but that’s the risk - but I think once this happens the club will try to get the most possible and send him on his way

 

I’m not even angry nor surprised by any of this - the current squad was never likely to be a long term one, and we bought players to flip them for big profit - but I’d have liked to see him in B&W for one more season.  I’m confident we’ll spend the profit well - though that confidence is sapping daily

 

 

No one wants to say this out loud, but the way PSR is designed, it is the only way for us to operate until our revenue generation has doubled. It's a sickener with having the richest owners in the world, but it's what we signed up to. 

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1 minute ago, Fak said:

 

Every chance Isak/the players were led to believe that this was the summer where we properly take off and pack the squad with some quality additions. Given the window as been a total mess since day 1 then it's probably made Isak think twice, especially with Liverpool sniffing.

Maybe but then if he wanted 300k that’s all moot cos we were never paying that at many point.

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Just now, Infinitely Content said:

Sadly, him openly wanting to leave means it's likely going to be for less than his value. In my mind it's becoming increasingly likely to be £120-30m to Liverpool. And for me, it will be another example of the corruption and anti-competitiveness of the Premier League, as we're backed into this corner in large part because we're simply unable to offer him the wages he deserves, even just for a year to appease him.

Not only are we not allowed to truly compete, but we're also unlikely to get full value for our players when we do come to selling as we don't come from a position of strength. I don't mind selling, but I do mind getting rinsed.

We could’ve offered him double his current contract with zero PSR issues arising.  PSR isn’t what has caused this in terms of his contract. 

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3 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Got to admit it's annoying the way we've allowed him and his agent to basically shape the narrative when the club has huge power here given his 3 years remaining on his contract.

Yes, but the whole Twittersphere wants the move and assumes he's going to Liverpool because their fans are the best at clicking on stories.

 

This will sound like a Mackem but we cannot control the media. All we can do is refuse to be gaslit by other team's/fans' propaganda.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Depends if you think he’ll never play again if he stays. I don’t think that would happen, he would sulk for a bit and then come back in. 
 

It won’t happen like but I would love to see the club flex its muscles a bit. 

 

Yeah he might not be at his best, but for his own reputation, pride, stats etc etc. I doubt he downs tools. We blocked Cabaye move after a strop didn't we?

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Just now, TRon said:

 

 

He might have communicated it for all we know. Or maybe all this has come about because Liverpool have suddenly thrown their hat in the ring. 

And as sad as it is. Jotas death has changed Liverpool’s plans. Maybe there was no thought from any party that Liverpool were going to make a serious bid this year. We will need to look to reinvest as best we can and keep working off the field to catch up. So far we have reached champions league twice and won a cup. We are on the right path. 

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Just now, TRon said:

 

 

No one wants to say this out loud, but the way PSR is designed, it is the only way for us to operate until our revenue generation has doubled. It's a sickener with having the richest owners in the world, but it's what we signed up to. 

All of our players have been bought to eventually be sold - I don’t think folks have been willing to accept it.  Number of times I’ve read ‘X player will be with us for the next decade’.  They won’t. 

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1 minute ago, Fak said:

 

Every chance Isak/the players were led to believe that this was the summer where we properly take off and pack the squad with some quality additions. Given the window as been a total mess since day 1 then it's probably made Isak think twice, especially with Liverpool sniffing.

 

This is where I'm at with it all, we should have been coming out of last season, after having won a cup and qualified for the champions league, boosting our squad even further and making a push higher up the league, possibly even been in the title run ourselves. Instead we find ourselves digging through the bins round the back of Manchester United while the teams that finished 16th and 17th financially out-muscle us. We're all frustrated by whats happened this summer, imagine what it's like being a player at the top of your game with expectations and desire to win more.

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Just now, khay said:

And as sad as it is. Jotas death has changed Liverpool’s plans. Maybe there was no thought from any party that Liverpool were going to make a serious bid this year. We will need to look to reinvest as best we can and keep working off the field to catch up. So far we have reached champions league twice and won a cup. We are on the right path. 

 

That Jota insurance money...

 

How fucking morbid would that be but wow.

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Just logged on to see this. Shocked. The last i was told and have been told since April by those very close is that its next year he would go and it would be Spain. There was a multi hour phone call between all parties including Liverpool last week and it was decided that NUFC would not budge on their stance both timing wise and financially, so Liverpool went for Ekitike instead. Even today I was told the stance stays the same and it would have to be something crazy and from abroad for this to happen this summer. They did mention cash and players would be acceptable and was discussed but the money is still record setting even in that case and all upfront.

 

 

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