TRon Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 6 minutes ago, black_n_white said: It’s not out of the question Liverpool offer Elliot as part of the deal. Of course it's not out of the question given they are quite happy to get rid of the little twerp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, loki679 said: Ah, mate, you're gonna have to change your carpet anarl. Curtains already stick together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, The College Dropout said: Liverpool interest wouldn’t have been out the blue. None of this is out the blue. Yeah it isn't. He got wind and wanted out. No fucks given. He's made his bed, we don't need to cap for him anymore. Only player that's never fully fit but can run for 20 mins and then stroll around. Shola would be proud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 My new copium is Isak agent is a massive bell. Talks have been ongoing for months on new contract, with Chelsea signing Pedro and Arsenal Gyokres, the agent hand has been weakened in negotiations. After we moved for Etitike that then sprung Liverpool into action, it's further pissed off the agent because it's potentially weakend his hand further. Isak is geninely injured and we've left him behind as we don't want to take a risk on someone we've managed carefully since March over this injury, and the agent has used this as a final cunts trick to get the deal he wants by saying Isak is exploring moves and using the being left behind as an angle to get clubs circling. End result is he gets a new deal at us, but right now the pendulum has swung back towards agent in the talks over the final terms. Believeable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I don't think he had any real thoughts of moving until Liverpool showed their hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 It's wild how people are in denial about the fact he is clearly off to the dippers. Clench your teeth and get ready for the pain of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Sibierski said: My new copium is Isak agent is a massive bell. Talks have been ongoing for months on new contract, with Chelsea signing Pedro and Arsenal Gyokres, the agent hand has been weakened in negotiations. After we moved for Etitike that then sprung Liverpool into action, it's further pissed off the agent because it's potentially weakend his hand further. Isak is geninely injured and we've left him behind as we don't want to take a risk on someone we've managed carefully since March over this injury, and the agent has used this as a final cunts trick to get the deal he wants by saying Isak is exploring moves and using the being left behind as an angle to get clubs circling. End result is he gets a new deal at us, but right now the pendulum has swung back towards agent in the talks over the final terms. Believeable? No He's refusing to travel to our tour. This isn't about a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wandy said: It's wild how people are in denial about the fact he is clearly off to the dippers. Clench your teeth and get ready for the pain of it. Yep they are selling Diaz and Nunez, that pays for Isak. Edited July 24, 2025 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, Kanj said: The issue isn't about leaving, it's the fact this whole thing seems so cocked up at this point. Delap, JP, Ekitke all went elsewhere - we either decided the fee or wages don't work for us and then weeks on later our main man who is better than all 3 also wants out. It's just shit feeling. And based on the transfer success of the 3 strikers mentioned earlier, how the fuck do we get ourselves in a position to kick on and attack this season? I really thought as season ended we'd have a good summer. Sounded like we were really going to get stadium news. Sounded like we were going to get a CEO announced too. None happened. Mitchell then announces he's leaving. OK fine. Then week over week we are losing out on transfers and the only one time we heard from the club was when Eddie returned and his first or second thing he said was a lot of work being done behind the scenes for not much. Finally, deep down, I don't want fucking 200m. I want Isak here and I want to keep building upon last season. Man ... I've seen this happen with the likes of Fabregas, Van Persie, Coutinho, Suarez, Bale, Kane etc etc etc. If we play our cards right we can accelerate progress off the back of this. Isak's rate of progress has out paced that of the clubs unfortunately. He's done very well and we will be well compensated if and when he leaves. There are still top young strikers on the market. Both Ekitike and Pedro I liked more as support strikers rather than lead men, and so didn't necessarily see them as replacements for Isak. Delap IMO doesn't have the ceiling of the likes of Sesko and Samu, who could still be options. I understand people being upset though. I just tend to not get too caught up with individual players to the same extent, once they are ready to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, KaKa said: Man ... I've seen this happen with the likes of Fabregas, Van Persie, Coutinho, Suarez, Bale, Kane etc etc etc. If we play our cards right we can accelerate progress off the back of this. Isak's rate of progress has out paced that of the clubs unfortunately. He's done very well and we will be well compensated if and when he leaves. There are still top young strikers on the market. Both Ekitike and Pedro I liked more as support strikers rather than lead men, and so didn't necessarily see them as replacements for Isak. Delap IMO doesn't have the ceiling of the likes of Sesko and Samu, who could still be options. I understand people being upset though. I just tend to not get too caught up with individual players to the same extent, once they are ready to move on. All of this is pre psr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Geogaddi said: Yep, they are selling Diaz and Nunez, that more than pays for Isak. Everyone is sure of this but why haven't they done it already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Man ... I've seen this happen with the likes of Fabregas, Van Persie, Coutinho, Suarez, Bale, Kane etc etc etc. If we play our cards right we can accelerate progress off the back of this. Isak's rate of progress has out paced that of the clubs unfortunately. He's done very well and we will be well compensated if and when he leaves. There are still top young strikers on the market. Both Ekitike and Pedro I liked more as support strikers rather than lead men, and so didn't necessarily see them as replacements for Isak. Delap IMO doesn't have the ceiling of the likes of Sesko and Samu, who could still be options. I understand people being upset though. I just tend to not get too caught up with individual players to the same extent, once they are ready to move on. As long as we sign an elite-level striker I can accept the situation, worry is we don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooiman Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 13 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's unbelievable really. Guy is likely about to break the British record for a transfer and set the club up to take the next step forward. It just is what it is. It's not ideal, but just part of the process as things are currently setup. He's just hit a level that the club can't pay the going rate for yet. Having said that. Please not Liverpool. God forbid! Respectfully though, how on earth do we move onto the next phase? We've had arguably our best Premier League season and our star striker wants out to a club that has already spent more in one summer on two players than we've spent in an entire window, ever. I get it 'takes time', but if someone could genuinely explain to me how we get close to those teams I'd love to hear it. We were dreaming of finding a more consistent replacement for Callum Wilson, Liverpool and Chelsea are potentially dreaming of spending between 2-300m on forwards alone. Even if the argument is that Liverpool are league champions, we were three points behind Chelsea this season. They've already spent 250m and are potentially open to splashing 150m on Isak. I can sort of understand a financial disparity between top and bottom of the league, but how have we let the league get to a place where the likes of ourselves and Villa are spending pennies on the pound compared to teams that are just a place or two ahead of us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: Everyone is sure of this but why haven't they done it already? Well Diaz is similar to Isak now in that he seems desperate to leave so Liverpool will have to sell him the same way we have to now sell Isak really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Man ... I've seen this happen with the likes of Fabregas, Van Persie, Coutinho, Suarez, Bale, Kane etc etc etc. If we play our cards right we can accelerate progress off the back of this. Isak's rate of progress has out paced that of the clubs unfortunately. He's done very well and we will be well compensated if and when he leaves. There are still top young strikers on the market. Both Ekitike and Pedro I liked more as support strikers rather than lead men, and so didn't necessarily see them as replacements for Isak. Delap IMO doesn't have the ceiling of the likes of Sesko and Samu, who could still be options. I understand people being upset though. I just tend to not get too caught up with individual players to the same extent, once they are ready to move on. All of that requires a proper system in place. First two played for Arsenal, second two for Liverpool, the other two for Spurs. We don't have any infrastructure, we are hanging on Nickson and Howe at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: As long as we sign an elite-level striker I can accept the situation, worry is we don't. Im the same. We could rebuild our squad with this money from Isak but my problem lies at the snail pace we do everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Get the scruffy Judas cunt out so we can get some replacements lined up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Chelsea not involved, according to Pasta Nonce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, The Butcher said: Chelsea not involved, according to Pasta Nonce Probably at the limit with Hato and Simon's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: Man ... I've seen this happen with the likes of Fabregas, Van Persie, Coutinho, Suarez, Bale, Kane etc etc etc. If we play our cards right we can accelerate progress off the back of this. Isak's rate of progress has out paced that of the clubs unfortunately. He's done very well and we will be well compensated if and when he leaves. There are still top young strikers on the market. Both Ekitike and Pedro I liked more as support strikers rather than lead men, and so didn't necessarily see them as replacements for Isak. Delap IMO doesn't have the ceiling of the likes of Sesko and Samu, who could still be options. I understand people being upset though. I just tend to not get too caught up with individual players to the same extent, once they are ready to move on. All of these were pre PSR or with clubs that needed actual cash not PSR headroom. And we also aren’t moving like a club looking to slow build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Well this is all very shit. Just get him out quickly and get it done if he wants out. Can't be arsed with another saga Preferably anywhere but another PL club. Liverpool nailed on. The irony of watching him and ekitike when it could have been here a week ago. Gordon to throw toys out of the pram next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 And that's why this cunt has engineered this now, just nice for Liverpool to low ball us. We've been extremely pathetic on this so far so not expecting much resistance from us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: No He's refusing to travel to our tour. This isn't about a new contract. Where's the proof he's refused to travel? A bunch of fucking lemmings on twitter? The obsessions from many on here to believe negative shit as guaranteed fact from people that literally everyone on here berate as twats who know fuck all is so peculiar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Kanj said: All of that requires a proper system in place. First two played for Arsenal, second two for Liverpool, the other two for Spurs. We don't have any infrastructure, we are hanging on Nickson and Howe at this point. It's been slow and its not been perfect, but it's being worked on clearly. It has taken a while to figure out what best works for the current manager, which led to some disruption, which is being resolved now. I'd still take this over what we had previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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