Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

As far as actual selling price goes, if it were to get to that, I don't really see why we'd entertain anything below 150m. And I'd be pushing 200m.

 

He is contracted for 3 years, we have plenty of buffer to drag this out. 

 

150 is absolute minimum and we also need a replacement lined up. 

[Optimistic Nut]

45 minutes ago, JT24 said:

Why is somebody for AFTV being allowed to interview Bruno?

 

Great answer but shouldn't have happened. Media officer looks like he wants the ground to swallow him up.

 

Bruno probably just confused as hell that he hasn't been asked, "Did you get much sleep on the flight" and "How much are you looking forward to playing in South Korea". 

[Novocastrian]

11 minutes ago, Pandamninator said:

Yep, the tribe has spoken.

 

Apparently he downed tools after the League Cup Final.

 

Which is obviously the case, despite his attempts to cover it up by scoring 4 times in the 6 matches that immediately followed.  

 

He was mince, bagged a few pens, also looked annoyed/didn’t celebrate when others scored which I felt was a bit strange at the time.

[PauloGeordio]

4 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Guehi also didn't get his move, so I'm not sure you can hold that up to players as a good path to follow.

 

Worked out ok for Palace, but not so much for the player.

It was more about his handling of the situation. If we’d have paid the asking price it may have happened. All speculation at this point now. Maybe Isak won’t go and he’ll sign a new contract. Sure we can fill in the gaps retrospectively when this has concluded one way or another by the end of the window.

[Adam P]

Bruno was fucking excellent there. Handled superbly, great man. 

[gbandit]

Just now, Adam P said:

Bruno was fucking excellent there. Handled superbly, great man. 

How you feeling now about the 4D chess move we pulled to throw Liverpool off Isak?

[nufcjmc]

2 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

Not a massive leap, no. But absolutely no proof nor any inside knowledge over what has actually happened behind the scenes. My assumption is that he's told them he wants out/wants more money etc and the club wasn't going to drag him to Asia while this was going down, given it isn't really in anyones interest to do so until this whole saga has concluded.

I was also going to add the fact he came back from the break late despite not playing internationally i dont think no idea at this point if that's the club trying to appease him while trying to get him to agree to a new deal which clearly is not enough or too late for him.

 

He is a massive draw one of the best strikers in the league. We have gone out mainly to open new markets you dont "sell" the brand and get fans buying shirts for plucky osula at the minute (prove me wrong lad). Lewis hall and big joe have both been hampered with injury and still travelled that's another bad sign. 

 

For me we have been too respectful to the striker regardless of the supposed promise broken. This may be because we hold out hope he stays and if he does he needs to dial in to perform or no one hits that number we would sell at this window.

 

I fear we can't psr afford an isak replacement before he goes and the bid may not come in until much later in the window. Once your in a chain the player you want may be gone or the selling club has no time to get their own replacement and refuse to sell.

 

The way this window has gone Isak gets his wish to leave and we go with what we have up top until the January affectively writing off the season.

[FLUMPO235]

3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Bruno probably just confused as hell that he hasn't been asked, "Did you get much sleep on the flight" and "How much are you looking forward to playing in South Korea". 

He had probably sat through days of training on what to say if he got asked about Japanese imperial flags of war. Instead he gets this. 

[Turnbull2000]

9 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

As far as actual selling price goes, if it were to get to that, I don't really see why we'd entertain anything below 150m. And I'd be pushing 200m.

 

He is contracted for 3 years, we have plenty of buffer to drag this out. 

 

If the intention is to let him go, we don't really have the time to drag it out and try and rinse Liverpool for every penny. We need him gone by early next week. Otherwise very little time to find a replacement (that's assuming we're competent enough to do that).

 

 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Turnbull2000

[Mattoon]

I'm cured of this now, needs concluded.

[SEMTEX]

Just now, Turnbull2000 said:

 

If the intention is to let him go, we don't really have the time to drag it out and try and rinse Liverpool for every penny. We need him gone by early next week. Otherwise very little time to find a replacement.

 

So we don't sell him this window and he plays for another 6 months.

 

Or we just sign Wissa anyway and have them both for 6 months.

[bobbydazzla]

19 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

Has the group decided that Isak has 'downed tools'?

We don’t know whether he has or not  

 

I’ve been very consistent in saying IF he’s downed tools

 

And the response of mine you’ve quoted was me taking about footballers in general, not specific to Isak

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Guehi also didn't get his move, so I'm not sure you can hold that up to players as a good path to follow.

 

Worked out ok for Palace, but not so much for the player.

Worked very well for Guehi ……he kept his reputation if not enhanced it………..

[SEMTEX]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

We don’t know whether he has or not  

 

I’ve been very consistent in saying IF he’s downed tools

 

And the response of mine you’ve quoted was me taking about footballers in general, not specific to Isak

 

 

Thats why I asked the question.

 

 

Edited July 25, 2025 by SEMTEX

[Jackie Broon]

Pure speculation but I wonder how much the burglary of his and other players houses has affected his happiness here? (not that it would be better in Liverpool!)

[Adam P]

13 minutes ago, gbandit said:

How you feeling now about the 4D chess move we pulled to throw Liverpool off Isak?

 

Still about the same, we now know there were crisis meetings in March about keeping hold of Isak and that there were strategies put in place. Now that information doesnt come close to confirming a proactive strategy of chasing Liverpool's no.2 target to make them move for that target, but its definitely consistent. 

 

It remains a good strategy to keep ypur best player who could earn more elsewhere. We now know the concerns around keeping him go way back. None of this proves anything. 

 

Even the weakness in the theory that Ekitike was nott Liverpool's 'second' choice but was in fact part of a fooballing strategy to get both Ekitike and Isak doesnt undermine the strategic value of prompting a bid for Ekitike. If Isak leaves for Liverpool you would have to say that strategisiing around Liverpool's intentions in March probably wouldnt have led to the view that Liverpool would pursue both (obvioulsy Jota impacted this too).

 

I do corporate strategy for a company over 50 times larger than Man City so maybe i am over thinking it. 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Adam P

[Turnbull2000]

3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

We don’t know whether he has or not  

 

I’ve been very consistent in saying IF he’s downed tools

 

And the response of mine you’ve quoted was me taking about footballers in general, not specific to Isak

 

If he hadn't downed tools, I think he would have been on that flight. The transfer could still go ahead. Isak would just fly back.

[Displayname]

40 minutes ago, The Fountain said:

It's not uncommon for players not to get the move they want to stay and play well.

And I'm totally on board with that if we don't get a bid that matches his valuation.

 

Think it's a bad look if we do and we hang on to him despite him wanting away though. Might discourage other players coming here.

 

We should just face the fact that we aren't the top dogs, YET.

[Adam P]

4 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

We don’t know whether he has or not  

 

I’ve been very consistent in saying IF he’s downed tools

 

And the response of mine you’ve quoted was me taking about footballers in general, not specific to Isak

 

Eddie decided that Isak wouldnt go on the tour. No one else. To insinuate that Isak isnt on the tour because Isak decided not to go is bollocks but also offenseive to Eddie Howe. 

[SEMTEX]

1 minute ago, Turnbull2000 said:

 

If he hadn't downed tools, I think he would have been on that flight. The transfer could still go ahead. Isak would just fly back.

 

We must move quickly on this! But also send that man to South Korea?

 

Howay man. Absolutely nee purpose in him going to a pre-season fluff tour of Asia if we need to have SHOWDOWN TALKS / TRANSFER TALKS with him / his people.

[Adrian1881]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

And I'm totally on board with that if we don't get a bid that matches his valuation.

 

Think it's a bad look if we do and we hang on to him despite him wanting away though. Might discourage other players coming here.

 

We should just face the fact that we aren't the top dogs, YET.

Maybe it will be a good thing? We don't need players that are not committed to Newcastle if this sh... will discourage them.

[Pandamninator]

14 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

I was also going to add the fact he came back from the break late despite not playing internationally i dont think no idea at this point if that's the club trying to appease him while trying to get him to agree to a new deal which clearly is not enough or too late for him.

 

He is a massive draw one of the best strikers in the league. We have gone out mainly to open new markets you dont "sell" the brand and get fans buying shirts for plucky osula at the minute (prove me wrong lad). Lewis hall and big joe have both been hampered with injury and still travelled that's another bad sign. 

 

For me we have been too respectful to the striker regardless of the supposed promise broken. This may be because we hold out hope he stays and if he does he needs to dial in to perform or no one hits that number we would sell at this window.

 

I fear we can't psr afford an isak replacement before he goes and the bid may not come in until much later in the window. Once your in a chain the player you want may be gone or the selling club has no time to get their own replacement and refuse to sell.

 

The way this window has gone Isak gets his wish to leave and we go with what we have up top until the January affectively writing off the season.

 

PSR isn't a credit card where there is a current balance that can never be exceeded.

 

It is an annual calculation over a full 12 month window - we could spend a billion pounds on July 1st with zero repercussions as long as we earned enough revenue over the next 364 days to cover it when the period ends on June 30th

 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Pandamninator

[SEMTEX]

Also PSR can suck a fat one. Go buy a striker now and see what happens re:Isak. Dock us 10 points. We'll have far fewer points if we're playing 6 months with Willy Osula upfront.

 

In reality our overlords can probably just litigate the fuck out of the PL ala Man City and get away scot free.

[TRon]

15 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

 

If the intention is to let him go, we don't really have the time to drag it out and try and rinse Liverpool for every penny. We need him gone by early next week. Otherwise very little time to find a replacement (that's assuming we're competent enough to do that).

 

 

 

 

 

If Liverpool won't pay the fee - which has to be the bare minimum of £150m then they don't want him badly enough. 

 

Also means we don't have to buy a replacement as he will still be here. 

[nufcjmc]

1 minute ago, Pandamninator said:

 

PSR isn't a credit card where there is a current balance that can never be exceeded.

 

It is an annual calculation - we could spend a billion pounds on July 1st with zero repercussions as long as we earned enough revenue over the next 364 days to cover it.

 

I am aware we are cash rich and psr poor and dont need to worry about an overspend until the end of the psr cycle.

 

However for argument sake IF we sign wissa and sesko and keep isak and then isak doesn't go, has a bad season or Liverpool pivot and no one else buys him or his value plummets then yes it would cause a massive issue. 

 

I would rather him gone cash in pocket and sign someone. No one wants a random and reluctant sale if we over commit now. Which then circles back to my issue if its liverpool and they need 1 or 2 away first we are only 3 weeks out from the opening of the season and isak isn't even training yet to build up fitness and sharpness.

 

Doesn't exactly give you the tools to succeed.