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4 hours ago, Magpie Mover said:

On whether the club could block his sale:

"I don’t think it’s that straightforward, otherwise we’d have done that a long time ago. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that currently."

 

Don’t like the sound of this and don’t understand it. Eddie saying this just encourages Liverpool to make another low ball offer as apparently we can’t stop him leaving. 

That could also mean we arent in a position financialally to just let him rot.

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6 hours ago, Displayname said:

Don't really think so myself. I remember all thosr games he goes totally missing.

If it was anyone else then fine, accept a lower fee. But for Liverpool, it has to be 150m and not a penny less.

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5 hours ago, oldtype said:

 

I’m repeating myself, but why would we want to deter them if they’re meeting or exceeding our asking price. We want to induce them to do that, if anything.

 

There's an assumption in here that we would always have been happy to sell Isak for £Xm (be that 150 or whatever valuation the club have now put on him) this window.

 

But all the indications are that we didn't want to sell Isak this summer, be it for 150m or anything else.

 

We are now having to consider selling him because he's been unsettled and because of the ensuing circus that has completely derailed what was already a pretty shit transfer window.

 

It's a situation we don't want to repeat with other players in future which is why there's talk of taking a stand as a deterrent. Liverpool tried exactly the same thing with Gordon last year and have done the same with other clubs on several occasions. If we don't make it awkward for them they'll keep on doing it, as will others.

 

I'd be happy right now for the club to point blank refuse to sell to Liverpool (or tell them the price is £20m more for them than for anyone else) to make that point.

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1 hour ago, madras said:

That could also mean we arent in a position financialally to just let him rot.

We're definitely not.

 

But at the same time, it won't come to that because it benefits nobody.

 

In the event he stays he will absolutely end up reintegrated with the squad and playing once back to full fitness because that's what Eddie will want, what Isak will want and what the rest of the team will want.

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1 hour ago, KingArthur said:

Saudi window is Open after 1st September? So if he stays and goes on a strike just say he can go on loan there if he doesnt fancy Newcastle 

 

I think his agent has made it known he has no interest in going Saudi

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5 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said:

If I was anything to do with Liverpool I’d have serious reservations about signing him now.  An absolutely scandalous attitude and total disregard for his club, manager, and fans.

 

My prediction is that Liverpool will move onto someone else if this doesn't get resolved in the next 10 days. They're much bigger than Isak is and won't think twice about leaving him in the lurch even though he seems to have burned his bridges here.

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My opinion for what is worth, is that Eddie wont have him training with the team while there is question marks where he will be. Eddie will be working on formation and tactics that he wont want a future ex-player to be privy to. I don't think Isak is refusing to train with the squad, he's just not allowed to. If the question of him staying ends up positive he will be reintegrated.

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10 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said:

If I was anything to do with Liverpool I’d have serious reservations about signing him now.  An absolutely scandalous attitude and total disregard for his club, manager, and fans.


 

Liverpool have pretty much orchestrated this. He’ll be acting vile so we want to get shut of him asap for a price lower than the £150m spoken about. 
 

If he’s that set on going I’d be interested to see what the reaction would be if we said fine but we won’t be selling to Liverpool. . . . . .

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As I said in the Eddie Howe thread I think Isak has checked out mentally and so it's not as easy as just telling him to stay, it benefits no one holding him hostage but that's a two way street, he can't hold us hostage either, there has to be an acceptance that he only gets to leave if his valuation is met, he believes he's world class and deserves world class wages in a world class team, well that comes with a world class price tag.

 

I trust Eddie to get this right, whether that's extracting maximum value or reintegrating a valuable asset back into the team if his valuation isn't met.

 

 

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He'll end up going for around £125-130m. That lowball bid a few weeks back was designed to sweeten a figure closer to Liverpool's actual valuation of him, especially as the situation continues to escalate and his position here becomes more untenable. 

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2 minutes ago, jack j said:

Hopefully you're taking the piss here

Clear to see from his actions, what he has said!?!

Honestly its not that clear to me what has happened. Might have just been that he has refused a new contract and said that he wants to go to Liverpool and that it's been Eddies decision to leave him out of the team until he changes his mind.

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22 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said:

If I was anything to do with Liverpool I’d have serious reservations about signing him now.  An absolutely scandalous attitude and total disregard for his club, manager, and fans.


Definitely seems to be a portion of their fans who think this, although if he hits 35 goals for them I doubt they’ll care…until Real come calling.

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7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

He’s worth what the club are happy to sell him for and what another club is willing to pay; not what posters on internet forums think he’s worth. 

 

NB I haven’t seen anyone suggest that the club should take a bath on Isak

Nearly every media source has said we value him at 150m

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1 minute ago, Displayname said:

Honestly its not that clear to me what has happened. Might have just been that he has refused a new contract and said that he wants to go to Liverpool and that it's been Eddies decision to leave him out of the team until he changes his mind.

 

It's obvious from Eddie's press conference that he is completely livid with him. You don't refuse to integrate a player with the group on the basis that he won't sign a contract, he's clearly acting a complete cunt for it to get to that stage. 

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4 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Honestly its not that clear to me what has happened. Might have just been that he has refused a new contract and said that he wants to go to Liverpool and that it's been Eddies decision to leave him out of the team until he changes his mind.

 

He wouldn't be banished from the squad for refusing a new contract?

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3 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

He wouldn't be banished from the squad for refusing a new contract?

I don't know. Eddie also said it wasn't any cause for diciplinary actions.

If it's Newcastle's position that either he signs a new contract or we have to let him go, I can see him being left out of the team until things becomes more clear.

 

 

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