BlazeT44 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, maze said: Or when the nicked some of our best players from us. Before his time but Liverpool took Andy Carroll from us for 50m. A huge amount of money, particularly back then. Simply because they had the cash to spend. Of course in hindsight, they way overpaid, but nonetheless, a great and young prospect back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Quote I like the quote - 'Past success is only briefly a glad memory, it quickly becomes an accusing finger'. That's what he's facing. I'll disagree with the quote because Liverpool remained a financial powerhouse in football, selling millions of replica shirts etc. and of course attracting a high profile manager like Klopp himself, off the back of success in the 1970s and 1980s. Man U still have super high revenue despite not winning the league for 10 years. Klopp's probably doing this as a distraction to stop people analyzing what his team are doing wrong. He'd rather have some bollocks debate over money in football than 15 minute segments on MNF pointing out his team's failings, esp. the defensive ones, which are likely to affect the confidence of his players and of some fans in Klopp himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: Before his time but Liverpool took Andy Carroll from us for 50m. A huge amount of money, particularly back then. Simply because they had the cash to spend. Of course in hindsight, they way overpaid, but nonetheless, a great and young prospect back then. 35m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: 35m Correct, sir ? I was thinking Fernando Torres! Still, 35m was a lot then...!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) This was 2 years before Ashley. When our owners have to justify our sponsorship deals I hope they use things like this. If we were to say that naturally we were within a 3rd of Liverpool's commercial revenue (I've not checked but I'm guessing it's nowhere near that now), then being able to argue that the takeover has increased profile in the Middle East, we have scope to increase further pretty easily. Edited October 15, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It's hilarious how transparent it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Then again Liverpool have a ceiling. They can't compete with sovereign states like Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford or Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Klopp is just a cunt. He behaves like a cunt on the touchline when they're losing or frustrated, he behaves like a cunt to journalists when hes struggling and he behaves like a righteous patronising arsehole when they're doing well. Him and his chest thumping bullshit can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 If he said all this money is bad for the league I would absolutely agree with him, it's just the blatant getting his excuses in about it and pretending he hasn't spent a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiresias said: If he said all this money is bad for the league I would absolutely agree with him, it's just the blatant getting his excuses in about it and pretending he hasn't spent a lot Thing is everybody having a pop at us for this no ceiling bullshit - nobody spoke up for us when we were getting bled dry for 14 years, if it was financial fair play then they’d protect those clubs as well. It’s a financial capping system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Being hated comes with the territory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Absolutely. If they came through with a suggestion for financial fair play that cut back on the ludicrous over spending, allowed clubs with poorer resources to better compete I am all for it. But rather than blaming how miserably the game has been governed it's just man city and our fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Decky said: Klopp is just a cunt. He behaves like a cunt on the touchline when they're losing or frustrated, he behaves like a cunt to journalists when hes struggling and he behaves like a righteous patronising arsehole when they're doing well. Him and his chest thumping bullshit can fuck off. He's a classic bully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Decky said: Klopp is just a cunt. He behaves like a cunt on the touchline when they're losing or frustrated, he behaves like a cunt to journalists when hes struggling and he behaves like a righteous patronising arsehole when they're doing well. Him and his chest thumping bullshit can fuck off. He’s jumped the shark big time. Getting desperate with all the nonsense you’ve mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) What’s odd about his comment is that we haven’t even started to throw our (owner’s) weight around. Most of what has happened, perhaps with the exception of the Isak fee, is just that we’re now operating as a well run club with ambitions. It’s something any new owner could have done, and even something Ashley could have done if he was arsed about building us up rather than leaching on us. It’s clear some of the top six are bricking themselves. Look at the momentum we have after one year of being run as a proper football club - we’re already a force to be reckoned with even before our owners really start flexing their muscles. Edited October 15, 2022 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) I think Klopp sees us as just some other club. Remember when we played them near the end of the Rafa era up here and we had the audacity to create a hostile atmosphere? Seemed bemused by the whole thing. Edited October 15, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Biggest prick in football at the moment and has been for some time. Started the season after they won the league - arrogant as fuck. He is perfectly suited to Liverpool, although I do echo what others say regarding the scousers being sound (and similar city to Newcastle) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said: Biggest prick in football at the moment and has been for some time. Started the season after they won the league - arrogant as fuck. He is perfectly suited to Liverpool, although I do echo what others say regarding the scousers being sound (and similar city to Newcastle) Totally disagree with the last point, I've always found the scousers to be utter cunts at both Merseyside clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 If teams are to compete fairly, surely we have to factor out those with more global fanbases too? Is it any more fair to return to a time when Man United and Liverpool could outspend everyone because of their global brand? Have a salary cap and transfer cap per team, not based on revenue at all. Then I'll be interested. Otherwise you're not trying to create a level playing field at all, you're just trying to pull the ladder up and maintain the status quo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Refuse to be lectured to by a bloke working for those owners who signed the deals to leave British football and join the ESL. This wasn't some idea they were just kicking around and mulling over, they talked about it, agreed it all, signed the deals and then put it into operation. They slit the throat of the footballing pyramid in this country to further their own bank balances and only rowed back on it because of the adverse fan attention it created. That shit was done - cut and fucking dried. Contracts signed, done deal. They did it, all 6 of them. And now they all have another new challenge and they're throwing their collective toys out of the pram. We're all aware that the Saudi's are pretty reprehensible cunts tbh. The shit they do is shady as fuck and pretty bleak and I'm not happy about any of it tbph. But to paint the other owners as these paragons of virtue, whiter than white and absolutely sound as fuck is just blatant fucking gaslighting. The ESL 6 held a pistol to the head of the English game and gladly pulled the fucking trigger. The fact they almost got away with it isn't lost on all fans thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, midds said: Refuse to be lectured to by a bloke working for those owners who signed the deals to leave British football and join the ESL. This wasn't some idea they were just kicking around and mulling over, they talked about it, agreed it all, signed the deals and then put it into operation. They slit the throat of the footballing pyramid in this country to further their own bank balances and only rowed back on it because of the adverse fan attention it created. That shit was done - cut and fucking dried. Contracts signed, done deal. They did it, all 6 of them. And now they all have another new challenge and they're throwing their collective toys out of the pram. We're all aware that the Saudi's are pretty reprehensible cunts tbh. The shit they do is shady as fuck and pretty bleak and I'm not happy about any of it tbph. But to paint the other owners as these paragons of virtue, whiter than white and absolutely sound as fuck is just blatant fucking gaslighting. The ESL 6 held a pistol to the head of the English game and gladly pulled the fucking trigger. The fact they almost got away with it isn't lost on all fans thankfully. Klopp refused to condemn the ESL as well, unlike some other 'big 6' managers who did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Canny https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakgarnerpurkis/2022/10/15/jurgen-klopp-is-wrong-liverpool-fc-has-no-ceiling-but-newcastle-united-did/?sh=732f767e2603 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, et tu brute said: Totally disagree with the last point, I've always found the scousers to be utter cunts at both Merseyside clubs. Same, first time I went to Liverpool I booked a hotel by accident just outside of the city centre and had a hell of a time in a bad way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Same, first time I went to Liverpool I booked a hotel by accident just outside of the city centre and had a hell of a time in a bad way. Only time in the 84 cup tie, I have had a knife pulled on me. Luckily he didn't get a chance to use it as he was quickly surrounded by our fans and ran off. I was 14 at the time. Edited October 15, 2022 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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