TheBrownBottle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: In order of winning preference would we agree it's like this Premier League Champions League FA Cup Europa League League Cup Europa Conference Nope European Cup Premier League UEFA Cup FA Cup Conference League League Cup The traditionalist in me wants to place the FA Cup much higher, but it’s been damaged badly over previous decades. I’m astonished by the numbers on here who’d take a PL win over the European Cup. I would swap five league titles for one European Cup Edited June 8, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Kimbo said: You need to beat top clubs to win the league cup, surely it has more bragging rights. Conference League 100% trumps League Cup for me. Not sure why beating Fiorentina in a final is less prestigious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) They're 8th in Serie A like. It's a much more interesting cup as it's great to see your side compete against European teams, but the quality of opposition is much worse than you'll see in the League Cup. The final almost always has a top 4 side in it. Edited June 8, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Conference League 100% trumps League Cup for me. Not sure why beating Fiorentina in a final is less prestigious. Tbf Fiorentina finished 8th in Serie A. league cup and conference league are about the same level to me. Champions league obviously thr pinnacle of European club football. I only have Europa above FA Cup because of the CL qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 We play the ‘big boys’ in England twice a season, and it’s a domestic pot. The only reason the FA Cup registers so high for me is the history and prestige of it - European competitions generally hold greater value. The UEFA Cup would be the bigger trophy to win - just - but if you ask me on another day I might put it below the FA Cup (though only for emotive reasons). If I wasn’t an English NUFC supporter, I wonder if I’d actually put it below the Conference League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 44 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: They're 8th in Serie A like. It's a much more interesting cup as it's great to see your side compete against European teams, but the quality of opposition is much worse than you'll see in the League Cup. The final almost always has a top 4 side in it. The thing is though, for the top 4/nations in the Conference League, each one of those teams would have qualified for the Europa League a couple of years ago. Ok both Fiorentina and West Ham have had bad seasons, but that could have happened in the Europa League, in fact it did with Seville this year. For what it’s worth, unless they get a ban, then Juventus will be in the Conference League next season, hardly a minnow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Anyone turning their noses up at winning this is mental! Some of them were arseholes last night but they’re the best fans in London and I know a few so I’m pleased for them! Proper fans like us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Hanshithispantz said: They're 8th in Serie A like. It's a much more interesting cup as it's great to see your side compete against European teams, but the quality of opposition is much worse than you'll see in the League Cup. The final almost always has a top 4 side in it. For most of the league cup you'll be playing against reserve teams mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Premier League all day. The thought of beating the Sinister Six over a 38 game season, all the highs, lows and drama that would entail, makes it the most special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 FA Cup is harder to win then Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Saw the last 20 minutes and I thought that Fiorentina were terrible. I'm pleased for Moyes, who I've always quite liked. He's had a long career and it must feel great to land a trophy at last. But the Conference is a competition for teams that aren't good enough for the Europa League, and I'm not that bothered about the Europa League, because that's for teams who aren't good enough for the UCL. A lot of trips to the far-flung outposts of Europe which detract from your domestic form. I'm genuinely dubious about the benefits of qualifying for the other European competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Premier League Champions League FA Cup Europa League Europa Conference Carabao Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I think the FA Cup has massively declined in prestige in my lifetime, which is a shame. It's not too far off the League Cup in terms of significance these days. Either way, both of those trophies would be at the bottom of the list for me. CL PL EL ECL FAC LC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Premier League = Champions League Europa=FA League Cup = Conference League In my mind. Winning the CL without winning the PL with the same squad seems weird and devalues it somehow... just in my mind of course. However winning the PL multiple times and not winning the CL with a certain squad had its own mini asterix. It's all personal preference TBH. Would shag me dead granny for a League Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Can’t believe everyone is missing out this cup in their lists: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Its definitely the Papa Johns of European trophies but it would still be nice to win. Having said that I would like to think our ambition and owners we have now means we wont ever end up in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Sorry like but until we actually start winning things regularly a league cup win should be on the same level as a league title for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, KDT said: Sorry like but until we actually start winning things regularly a league cup win should be on the same level as a league title for us. I think everyone's aware that any trophy for us would be mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Winning the European Cup puts you on a very small, very select list of clubs. Pretty much every English club of any significance has one league title in the bag in their history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Nope European Cup Premier League UEFA Cup FA Cup Conference League League Cup The traditionalist in me wants to place the FA Cup much higher, but it’s been damaged badly over previous decades. I’m astonished by the numbers on here who’d take a PL win over the European Cup. I would swap five league titles for one European Cup I can understand City picking CL over the League, maybe even some other clubs Obviously we'd take anything at this moment but in this hypothetical scenario the PL easily over the CL for me Across 38 games there is very little doubt you are the best team but when it comes to the CL the best team doesn't always win, Chelsea weren't even the best team in England when they won it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, STM said: Premier League = Champions League Europa=FA League Cup = Conference League In my mind. Winning the CL without winning the PL with the same squad seems weird and devalues it somehow... just in my mind of course. However winning the PL multiple times and not winning the CL with a certain squad had its own mini asterix. It's all personal preference TBH. Would shag me dead granny for a League Cup. I don't necessarily disagree with this, there isn't generally much between them but if you had to separate them in a list I was interested to see what people would go with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 11 hours ago, toon25 said: I caveat this by saying I'm a late-30s, bitter, cunt who drinks a pint if cynicism for breakfast, but genuinely dont want any other club from this country other than my own to do well I've not liked West Ham for a while now tbh, might have started with finding out Martin Samuels was a fan, then being led by Allardyce didn't help. For me it's not about the club, often it's the type of football they play. Never been a fan of David Moyes teams, and the one positive I take out of this is that he'll still be in charge of them next season as a result of winning this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brummie Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Winning the European Cup puts you on a very small, very select list of clubs. It certainly does. *wink* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Debating the merits of winning the CL or the Premier League reminds me of this old advert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX3tnL3lMGs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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