gbandit Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Has PGMOL ever come out immediately after a game to say that an offside decision was in error and that an investigation will be launched? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I try and give Refs as much leeway as I can normally (unless Newcastle and I'm emotionally heightened), they have a tough job, they have the eyes of the world looking at them, and we're in a period where in the eyes of the public there is a zero tolerance to mistakes, and they're only human, and I'm not sure I could deal with the level of scrutiny they deal with. However that being said, that offside just can't be allowed to happen, it's incompetence on a different level, I'm not sure why they rushed it that decision. I don't know why they havent bought in that AI based offside used at the World Cup, it'd clear things up a hell of a lot. It happened to Liverpool, it's it's fucking hilarious mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: The Chelsea one was crazy imo, this for me was a red. An accident, unintentional, but he misses what he tries to do and because of that it's dangerous. It's weird because I don't think they've been that dirty this season, but they (Fabinho and Roberston in particular) were last season and massively got away with it. 2 wrongs don't make a right, but these red cards have been in the post with Liverpool. Agree. It was insane what Fabinho got away with, and everyone knew it. I’m 50. If I hear one single Liverpool fan anywhere in my vicinity complain about refs my laughter in their face will echo through the generations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 So the statement confirms onside? Wow ... the whole team that were on VAR should be sacked immediately, along with Howard Webb. That is absolutely astonishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 So wait PGMOL are saying they took the on field decision of the refs and the VAR team didn’t step in to draw lines, consult the ref, nothing despite the actual action being incredibly close. Awful. No consistency. Nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: So the statement confirms onside? Wow ... the whole team that were on VAR should be sacked immediately, along with Howard Webb. That is absolutely astonishing. It wasn't even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 It looked onside, absolutely shocking that they’ve managed to give Klopp a platform to spout his shite. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Klopp nearly in tears Fucking love to see it man. Edited September 30, 2023 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: So the statement confirms onside? Wow ... the whole team that were on VAR should be sacked immediately, along with Howard Webb. That is absolutely astonishing. Aye something needs to change. Its not enough coming out and say sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Oh and to be clear, the free kick they got to set up the passage of play for their goal was a terrible decision too and should never have been given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Teslact said: With only one game on, provided they aren't having a chat, they should be able to get the lines up in a few seconds at Stockley Park while TV is still showing the celebration or linesman. I've no idea what they are doing taking 2 minutes most of the time. Probably better to take 2 minutes with hindsight I'd put money on them not having put the lines up at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I do find it kind of hilarious that people are saying "VAR is ruining the game, scrap VAR". The fucking linesman gave it as offside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 There is no way Diaz was offside, it was clear even without lines. Very odd how quickly they seemed to decide he was off, just a reminder that even with VARs help human error will still get things wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, 54 said: I do find it kind of hilarious that people are saying "VAR is ruining the game, scrap VAR". The fucking linesman gave it as offside Lino got it wrong which happens in split second decisions but the purpose of VAR is to correct those incorrect calls. VAR is great (or at least the concept of VAR is great), it’s the fuckwits who are running it that’s the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Maddison always speaks well. Seems a really good lad. Shame we missed out. A comparative bargain at £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Apparently they looked at the offside based on Porro who was running with Diaz. They didn't look at Romero's positioning. I genuinely cannot believe these people man. Are they trying to rush these decisions to keep the game flowing faster or something? This is crazy incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, 54 said: I do find it kind of hilarious that people are saying "VAR is ruining the game, scrap VAR". The fucking linesman gave it as offside Aren't you just making the people you're quoting's argument for them there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I didn’t have the commentary on and I was playing some paw patrol-based rescue game with my daughter so wasn’t paying loads of attention but I saw the goal and had no idea why it was ruled out. Then, they showed the offside still with no lines and I was even less sure why it was ruled out. I was expecting a lengthy delay but the game just restarted immediately. Did the commentators call it out? And the pundits at half time? Was so bizarre how it was ruled out within seconds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Just now, gbandit said: I didn’t have the commentary on and I was playing some paw patrol-based rescue game with my daughter so wasn’t paying loads of attention but I saw the goal and had no idea why it was ruled out. Then, they showed the offside still with no lines and I was even less sure why it was ruled out. I was expecting a lengthy delay but the game just restarted immediately. Did the commentators call it out? And the pundits at half time? Was so bizarre how it was ruled out within seconds Commentator on USA Network said the grass lines on the pitch confirms it's onside. Then when VAR say no, he said maybe the groundsman had a late night and mowed it cooked or something to that effect. Edited September 30, 2023 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 It’s a fucking shit call like but it’s Klopp so fuck it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 54 said: I do find it kind of hilarious that people are saying "VAR is ruining the game, scrap VAR". The fucking linesman gave it as offside Referees and linesmen will subconsciously make decisions with the knowledge of a safety net, so any time VAR fucks up there's a chance that decision would have actually been correct had VAR not existed. Edited September 30, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Again though the solution is obvious, remove the reasonable doubt nonsense and sub VAR out to a 3rd party unrelated to PGMOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Offsides are the hardest decision in the game for linesman to make, it is a split second decision, var really should be coming to help in those decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Aren't you just making the people you're quoting's argument for them there? Exactly. Same decision either way. Just one way is the way its always been and the other disrupts the game, risks sucking the life out of goals, costs more money and takes away human error because you cant have all that help available and still fuck up without being completely inept at your job or bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, Charlies said: It’s a fucking shit call like but it’s Klopp so fuck it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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