leffe186 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Sky talking absolute shite about a blatant red card I thought it was like the Chelsea one. I’d have given him a yellow and a final warning. Could see both. Like you said at the time, it looked like he was kinda doing that thing where you step over the ball to shield it, and Bissouma was too quick. And that’s the thing. He was too quick. And if you do that sort of tackle, and if you’re late, it (a) looks horrible on the replay and (b) is dangerous play. It could so easily have completely fucked Bissouma. And the other thing is, it’s not a coincidence that they keep getting reds. They play this way - little cynical fouls, leaving a boot in, being a bit reckless. I’ve seen McAllister make a couple of really questionable tackles, and Robertson genuinely seems a nasty piece of work. It’s just that they got away with it most of the time…and today they didn’t. Goes around comes around. It’s just taken ages to come around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I cannot even enjoy stuff like this tbh It'll not be long before it happens to us again. Hopefully with it being Liverpool being blatantly shafted the refs will be forced to actually do something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Smal said: They are incredibly bad at their jobs. Every game the officials are embarrassingly bad. Something like this was inevitable. Aye. Always said this when they pushed the "Respect the ref" stuff - they are so consistently incompetently bad that they fully deserve all the shit they get from fans, managers and players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Isak was never offside at Anfield last year, so fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 The refs will be desperate to make this right with Liverpool in the next game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Big VAR scandal by the look of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Does the Basque Country allow anyone over the age of 40 to attend games? Crowds always filled with bairns. Tierney’s hammy gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, leffe186 said: I thought it was like the Chelsea one. I’d have given him a yellow and a final warning. Could see both. Like you said at the time, it looked like he was kinda doing that thing where you step over the ball to shield it, and Bissouma was too quick. And that’s the thing. He was too quick. And if you do that sort of tackle, and if you’re late, it (a) looks horrible on the replay and (b) is dangerous play. It could so easily have completely fucked Bissouma. And the other thing is, it’s not a coincidence that they keep getting reds. They play this way - little cynical fouls, leaving a boot in, being a bit reckless. I’ve seen McAllister make a couple of really questionable tackles, and Robertson genuinely seems a nasty piece of work. It’s just that they got away with it most of the time…and today they didn’t. Goes around comes around. It’s just taken ages to come around. The Chelsea one was crazy imo, this for me was a red. An accident, unintentional, but he misses what he tries to do and because of that it's dangerous. It's weird because I don't think they've been that dirty this season, but they (Fabinho and Roberston in particular) were last season and massively got away with it. 2 wrongs don't make a right, but these red cards have been in the post with Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Has PGMOL ever come out immediately after a game to say that an offside decision was in error and that an investigation will be launched? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I try and give Refs as much leeway as I can normally (unless Newcastle and I'm emotionally heightened), they have a tough job, they have the eyes of the world looking at them, and we're in a period where in the eyes of the public there is a zero tolerance to mistakes, and they're only human, and I'm not sure I could deal with the level of scrutiny they deal with. However that being said, that offside just can't be allowed to happen, it's incompetence on a different level, I'm not sure why they rushed it that decision. I don't know why they havent bought in that AI based offside used at the World Cup, it'd clear things up a hell of a lot. It happened to Liverpool, it's it's fucking hilarious mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: The Chelsea one was crazy imo, this for me was a red. An accident, unintentional, but he misses what he tries to do and because of that it's dangerous. It's weird because I don't think they've been that dirty this season, but they (Fabinho and Roberston in particular) were last season and massively got away with it. 2 wrongs don't make a right, but these red cards have been in the post with Liverpool. Agree. It was insane what Fabinho got away with, and everyone knew it. I’m 50. If I hear one single Liverpool fan anywhere in my vicinity complain about refs my laughter in their face will echo through the generations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 So the statement confirms onside? Wow ... the whole team that were on VAR should be sacked immediately, along with Howard Webb. That is absolutely astonishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 So wait PGMOL are saying they took the on field decision of the refs and the VAR team didn’t step in to draw lines, consult the ref, nothing despite the actual action being incredibly close. Awful. No consistency. Nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: So the statement confirms onside? Wow ... the whole team that were on VAR should be sacked immediately, along with Howard Webb. That is absolutely astonishing. It wasn't even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 It looked onside, absolutely shocking that they’ve managed to give Klopp a platform to spout his shite. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Klopp nearly in tears Fucking love to see it man. Edited September 30, 2023 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: So the statement confirms onside? Wow ... the whole team that were on VAR should be sacked immediately, along with Howard Webb. That is absolutely astonishing. Aye something needs to change. Its not enough coming out and say sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Oh and to be clear, the free kick they got to set up the passage of play for their goal was a terrible decision too and should never have been given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Teslact said: With only one game on, provided they aren't having a chat, they should be able to get the lines up in a few seconds at Stockley Park while TV is still showing the celebration or linesman. I've no idea what they are doing taking 2 minutes most of the time. Probably better to take 2 minutes with hindsight I'd put money on them not having put the lines up at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I do find it kind of hilarious that people are saying "VAR is ruining the game, scrap VAR". The fucking linesman gave it as offside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 There is no way Diaz was offside, it was clear even without lines. Very odd how quickly they seemed to decide he was off, just a reminder that even with VARs help human error will still get things wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, 54 said: I do find it kind of hilarious that people are saying "VAR is ruining the game, scrap VAR". The fucking linesman gave it as offside Lino got it wrong which happens in split second decisions but the purpose of VAR is to correct those incorrect calls. VAR is great (or at least the concept of VAR is great), it’s the fuckwits who are running it that’s the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Maddison always speaks well. Seems a really good lad. Shame we missed out. A comparative bargain at £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Apparently they looked at the offside based on Porro who was running with Diaz. They didn't look at Romero's positioning. I genuinely cannot believe these people man. Are they trying to rush these decisions to keep the game flowing faster or something? This is crazy incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, 54 said: I do find it kind of hilarious that people are saying "VAR is ruining the game, scrap VAR". The fucking linesman gave it as offside Aren't you just making the people you're quoting's argument for them there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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