Other games (2024/25)

[mighty__mag]

It just seems so wrong Spurs or Man Utd will be in the CL next season.

[Yorkie]

The Europa competitions are probably in a bit of an existential crisis now, certainly in terms of being an honour in their own right. 

 

The Conference League title will mean very little if there's always an English team of Chelsea's strength munching through the competition with their second string. Then again, Olympiacos pulled off a shock last season and Betis might yet do the same. Perhaps there's not enough of a carrot to guarantee the English clubs won't treat it with disdain (like Spurs did under Conte). There's a slim hope that variety will prevail but ultimately every season will be about stopping a default Premier League victor.

 

What is really depressing is that the same will seemingly now apply to the Europa League, meaning a once great competition has been completely undermined by the structural changes. The double-whammy of having the very significant carrot of CL qualification,  plus no CL dropouts to contend with, means it's far too winnable for PL teams to disregard. It's quite telling that this year is only the second time we've ever had an all-English final in the history of the tournament. 

 

I would love to see the side-effects of binning the prize of CL qualification. 

[AngelofTheFourth]

46 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

The Conference League title will mean very little if there's always an English team of Chelsea's strength munching through the competition with their second string. Then again, Olympiacos pulled off a shock last season and Betis might yet do the same. Perhaps there's not enough of a carrot to guarantee the English clubs won't treat it with disdain (like Spurs did under Conte). There's a slim hope that variety will prevail but ultimately every season will be about stopping a default Premier League victor.

 

Olympiacos wouldn't have happened as they dropped down from Europa into europa from the Conference league.

[toon25]

51 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

The Europa competitions are probably in a bit of an existential crisis now, certainly in terms of being an honour in their own right. 

 

The Conference League title will mean very little if there's always an English team of Chelsea's strength munching through the competition with their second string. Then again, Olympiacos pulled off a shock last season and Betis might yet do the same. Perhaps there's not enough of a carrot to guarantee the English clubs won't treat it with disdain (like Spurs did under Conte). There's a slim hope that variety will prevail but ultimately every season will be about stopping a default Premier League victor.

 

What is really depressing is that the same will seemingly now apply to the Europa League, meaning a once great competition has been completely undermined by the structural changes. The double-whammy of having the very significant carrot of CL qualification,  plus no CL dropouts to contend with, means it's far too winnable for PL teams to disregard. It's quite telling that this year is only the second time we've ever had an all-English final in the history of the tournament. 

 

I would love to see the side-effects of binning the prize of CL qualification. 

 

Fucking spot on 

[r0cafella]

54 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

The Europa competitions are probably in a bit of an existential crisis now, certainly in terms of being an honour in their own right. 

 

The Conference League title will mean very little if there's always an English team of Chelsea's strength munching through the competition with their second string. Then again, Olympiacos pulled off a shock last season and Betis might yet do the same. Perhaps there's not enough of a carrot to guarantee the English clubs won't treat it with disdain (like Spurs did under Conte). There's a slim hope that variety will prevail but ultimately every season will be about stopping a default Premier League victor.

 

What is really depressing is that the same will seemingly now apply to the Europa League, meaning a once great competition has been completely undermined by the structural changes. The double-whammy of having the very significant carrot of CL qualification,  plus no CL dropouts to contend with, means it's far too winnable for PL teams to disregard. It's quite telling that this year is only the second time we've ever had an all-English final in the history of the tournament. 

 

I would love to see the side-effects of binning the prize of CL qualification. 

Take away the champions league place and it becomes the conference league.

 

Problem is Uefa will be loving the amount of attention the Europa league has received this year.

[tgarve]

1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

The Europa competitions are probably in a bit of an existential crisis now, certainly in terms of being an honour in their own right. 

 

The Conference League title will mean very little if there's always an English team of Chelsea's strength munching through the competition with their second string. Then again, Olympiacos pulled off a shock last season and Betis might yet do the same. Perhaps there's not enough of a carrot to guarantee the English clubs won't treat it with disdain (like Spurs did under Conte). There's a slim hope that variety will prevail but ultimately every season will be about stopping a default Premier League victor.

 

What is really depressing is that the same will seemingly now apply to the Europa League, meaning a once great competition has been completely undermined by the structural changes. The double-whammy of having the very significant carrot of CL qualification,  plus no CL dropouts to contend with, means it's far too winnable for PL teams to disregard. It's quite telling that this year is only the second time we've ever had an all-English final in the history of the tournament. 

 

I would love to see the side-effects of binning the prize of CL qualification. 

This is bullshit

 

this is all about who is in the final and not what it means

 

if it was us you would be loving it

 

 

i don’t think there’s anything wrong with this 

 

Man Utd  were 5 mins from going out 

[tgarve]

Did you moan about sevilla finishing 12 and being in the champions league by winning the europa? 

[tgarve]

It’s a bit bitterness as I feel people think it dampens us qualifying 

 

it doesn’t it will be great still and we can push on still and to be honest the Europa final will actually be a very good watch.

[tgarve]

( if we qualify!! ) roll on chelsea