brummie Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Abacus said: I actually think Birmingham is a great city when you get to know it, but it's not 100% a football city. Ask almost anyone in Newcastle on a Monday and they'll know the weekend's result and usually have an opinion on it. Not the same there at all. I'm sure the hardcore fans are just as passionate as any other, but I don't think the city's identity is driven as much by the rhythm of football as it is here. Maybe because it's a two team city, but maybe because it's a much bigger place as well. It's not a two team city, it's a three team one, and the West Midlands, which is basically these days one contiguous urban sprawl from west of Wolverhampton to Coventry contains god knows how many teams. Villa Park, the Hawthorns and the Sty are all about 2 miles apart.] What's more, it is a significantly bigger city than Newcastle, which is a small place (basically, only half as much population again as Solihull, which is a suburb of Brum) and a one club city and of course the dynamics are different. Edited October 22, 2023 by brummie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ronson333 said: https://www.villatalk.com/topic/9228-chop-chop-lets-all-gawp-at-newcastle-again/ wow these Villa fans really hate us You just noticed? They were the same prior to the takeover. Would otherwise have been delighted to see another team disrupt the top six. Edited October 22, 2023 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, brummie said: It's not a two team city, it's a three team one, and the West Midlands, which is basically these days one contiguous urban sprawl from west of Wolverhampton to Coventry contains god knows how many teams. Villa Park, the Hawthorns and the Sty are all about 2 miles apart.] What's more, it is a significantly bigger city than Newcastle, which is a small place (basically, only half as much population again as Solihull, which is a suburb of Brum) and a one club city and of course the dynamics are different. I wasn't really counting the baggies, may be wrong but it always felt like the real rivalry was between city and villa, with West Brom being as much rivals with Wolves. Probably also biased because one of my housemates at the time was a Bluenose and so when I went to those games it was in their home end. Whereas my villa mate got us tickets at the halfway line where it's not generally as good in any stadium. Like I say, my own thoughts were based on living a while all over the midlands, so could be missing a lot, because it's all based on what I saw and heard personally, rather than due to being from there. Edited October 22, 2023 by Abacus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, brummie said: It's not a two team city, it's a three team one, and the West Midlands, which is basically these days one contiguous urban sprawl from west of Wolverhampton to Coventry contains god knows how many teams. Villa Park, the Hawthorns and the Sty are all about 2 miles apart.] What's more, it is a significantly bigger city than Newcastle, which is a small place (basically, only half as much population again as Solihull, which is a suburb of Brum) and a one club city and of course the dynamics are different. Yeah I’m amazed Villa and Albion aren’t a full on derby - you can see Villa Park a few mins after coming onto the motorway from where the Albion ground is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: You just noticed? They were the same prior to the takeover. Would otherwise have been delighted to see another team disrupt the top six. Yeah normally wouldn’t mind a smaller club breaking into the top 4 but Villa have some sort of weird hatred towards us that makes it hard to like them . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Yeah normally wouldn’t mind a smaller club breaking into the top 4 but Villa have some sort of weird hatred towards us that makes it hard to like them . At least we can be more confident in being there for the long term. Our commercial income should leave them in the dust within a couple of years, and so long as we remain well managed unlike Chelsea. FFP has arguably forced our owners to demonstrate real competence. Edited October 22, 2023 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023–24_2._Bundesliga Crazy to see Schalke currently doing so badly. Had a fair few runs in the Champions League not long ago, but have started to yo-yo a bit, but worse this year, they are currently 3rd bottom in the second tier and starting to get cut adrift a bit from the non relegation type spots, lost 3-0 today their 4th defeat in a row. They have still got over 60,000 in all 4 league matches this season, which is impressive. Obviously a rival to Dortmund, and Gelsenkirchen is a twin city of Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 29 minutes ago, Mikky said: Yeah I’m amazed Villa and Albion aren’t a full on derby - you can see Villa Park a few mins after coming onto the motorway from where the Albion ground is That's a good example of where it gets complex. If you are say, 50 something and grew up north Brum, you'll probably hate Albion as they were our original derby, going back to the formation of the league. Some of our fans that side of town loathe them. I am in that age group, but grew up south Birmingham, where it was all about loathing Blues. The only Albion fan i ever really encountered as a kid was one of my uncles! Another complicating factor - we attract miles more support outside Brum than say Albion or Blues, down the M40 and the M5 corridors. It's a totally different dynamic than being a Leeds or a Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mikky said: Yeah I’m amazed Villa and Albion aren’t a full on derby - you can see Villa Park a few mins after coming onto the motorway from where the Albion ground is Isn’t the Hawthorns closer to Villa Park than St Andrews? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Stifler said: Isn’t the Hawthorns closer to Villa Park than St Andrews? No. Nothing in it, though. Edited October 22, 2023 by nemtizz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Lyon absolutely dogshit this season. Gonna be rock bottom after their game tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Disco said: Lyon absolutely dogshit this season. Gonna be rock bottom after their game tonight. Any idea how they're performing so badly? They have some half decent players, or at the very least players who should get them top 6 in that division. Lacazette, Cherki, Caqueret, Maitland-Niles, Tolisso, and Lopes are all decent players. What's caused them to be staggeringly bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Milan down to 10, VAR permitting, vs Juvenus just before half time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Still can't believe Romeu is at Barca and starting every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 54 said: Any idea how they're performing so badly? They have some half decent players, or at the very least players who should get them top 6 in that division. Lacazette, Cherki, Caqueret, Maitland-Niles, Tolisso, and Lopes are all decent players. What's caused them to be staggeringly bad? He's absolutely shit. And they have a young lad at CB (alongside 34 yr old Dejan Lovren) who couldn't break into Crystal Palace's first team, probably something to do with it. Edited October 22, 2023 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, 54 said: Any idea how they're performing so badly? They have some half decent players, or at the very least players who should get them top 6 in that division. Lacazette, Cherki, Caqueret, Maitland-Niles, Tolisso, and Lopes are all decent players. What's caused them to be staggeringly bad? They’ve been slowly on the slide for a while but I think a mixture of bad transfers making them weaker coupled poor management have finally caught up with them. Shame really as well managed they should be challenging for the title with PSG, OM, and Monaco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Jesus, anyone not understanding what a shitty state Italian football is in just needs to look at the line ups in that Milan - Juventus game. Weston McKennie actually starting games for Juventus. Moise Kean. Scezny in nets. Jesus. That's your actual Juventus, right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1-0 Juve, Locatelli. Certainly not holding back his celebrations against a former side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 0:48 - What's that all about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Weird, never seen that before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, nemtizz said: 0:48 - What's that all about? If you own certain Crypto tokens you can win balls that goals were scored with. I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/serie-a-socios-chilliz-blockchain-nft-tokens-ac-milan-inter/?zephr_sso_ott=393dOJ#:~:text=The GameUsed NFC chip will,platform via a reverse auction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 17 year old bairn scores on his debut for Barca with his second touch. Tidy finish. 21 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/serie-a-socios-chilliz-blockchain-nft-tokens-ac-milan-inter/?zephr_sso_ott=393dOJ#:~:text=The GameUsed NFC chip will,platform via a reverse auction. Well that's disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, brummie said: Jesus, anyone not understanding what a shitty state Italian football is in just needs to look at the line ups in that Milan - Juventus game. Weston McKennie actually starting games for Juventus. Moise Kean. Scezny in nets. Jesus. That's your actual Juventus, right there. I don’t think there’s much wrong with Italian football. PL has more money but Serie A is really competitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Ajax and Lyon are having nightmare starts, not exactly the most patient fans either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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