Ronaldo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, wormy said: Do you really think players that signed a year ago or less, for a team that was still worrying about relegation a year go, are going to look at this one transfer window/second half of the season and want out? Feels hyperbolic, to say the least. And I say this as someone that was disappointed with the January window and felt we left a fantastic opportunity on the table by not looking for an extra quality player or two to keep momentum going. Botman, Guimaraes etc are better than a club delighted to finish 7th. We need to have more ambition than that to keep our best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Why do people go on like spending recklessly and chucking out our FFP structure would have guaranteed top 4? Let’s be real, doing that comes with massive risk and it easily could have not paid off. Thankfully management had the sense to not get itchy trigger fingers but if there was a favourable deal to be done for a CM we would have done it. If you’ve not been won over to trust the process by what we’ve seen already then there’s no hope for you. About time people wake up and realise that because we’ve spent time in the top 4 this season it doesn’t mean we are ready for a CL campaign, and ironically it’s the same thing that would be said by some people if we did qualify and then struggle in the league due to the extra schedule (‘why didn’t we spend more!!!’). The answer to progress for a club in our transitional situation is not always spend spend spend. Edited February 18, 2023 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: Botman, Guimaraes etc are better than a club delighted to finish 7th. We need to have more ambition than that to keep our best players. Agree with this. do you think selling players on for massive profits is part of the long term strategy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Nine said: Why do people go on like spending recklessly and chucking out our FFP structure would have guaranteed top 4? Let’s be real, doing that comes with massive risk and it easily could have not paid off. Thankfully management had the sense to not get itchy trigger fingers but if there was a favourable deal to be done for a CM we would have done it. If you’ve not been won over to trust the process by what we’ve seen already then there’s no hope for you. About time people wake up and realise that because we’ve spent time in the top 4 this season it doesn’t mean we are ready for a CL campaign, and ironically it’s the same thing that would be said by some people if we did qualify and then struggle in the league due to the extra schedule (‘why didn’t we spend more’!!!). The answer to progress for a club in our transitional situation is not always spend spend spend. It is when your strength in depth is nonexistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nine said: Why do people go on like spending recklessly and chucking out our FFP structure would have guaranteed top 4? Let’s be real, doing that comes with massive risk and it easily could have not paid off. Thankfully management had the sense to not get itchy trigger fingers but if there was a favourable deal to be done for a CM we would have done it. If you’ve not been won over to trust the process by what we’ve seen already then there’s no hope for you. About time people wake up and realise that because we’ve spent time in the top 4 this season it doesn’t mean we are ready for a CL campaign, and ironically it’s the same thing that would be said by some people if we did qualify and then struggle in the league due to the extra schedule (‘why didn’t we spend more!!!’). The answer to progress for a club in our transitional situation is not always spend spend spend. The cream will rise to the top when those around us slowly fail and get caught out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just now, Heron said: The cream will rise to the top when those around us slowly fail and get caught out... What does this even mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Agree with this. do you think selling players on for massive profits is part of the long term strategy? Ashworth alluded to it didn’t he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: It is when your strength in depth is nonexistent. How should we have restructured our FFP plans then? Just say fuck it and spend big money on a CM? Who would you have signed to replace Bruno when he got suspended? Edited February 18, 2023 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Botman, Guimaraes etc are better than a club delighted to finish 7th. We need to have more ambition than that to keep our best players. We have ambition by the truckload, but some people need to realise that this won't happen overnight for a number of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: What does this even mean? Chelsea have splashed the cash and aren't reaping the rewards, wouldn't be surprised if this is their 'Leeds' moment tbh. Man City could be done for FFP irregularities. We just need to trust the plan and evolve in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Clearly the owners have high ambitions, but it takes time to put together a quality squad. They're a summer and two January transfer markets in and one of those we were in 19th place. With the right individuals in place and plenty of money behind them, I have no doubt we'll be competing for trophies and European spots on regular basis. Obviously it'd be nice to track to fast track things a bit, but it's not the end of the world if we don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: We have ambition by the truckload, but some people need to realise that this won't happen overnight for a number of reasons. That doesn’t mean making negligent mistakes like leaving us with 3 midfielders and 1 and a 1/2 strikers for the final 5 months of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 We needed to strengthen in Jan - didn't and are now paying the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 We don't demand a team that wins we demand a club that tries... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Ronaldo embarrassing himself on every thread on this forum is quite something, especially since I only managed it on the traitors thread. When he got married and lost his virginity he was chilled as fuck and disappeared, almost makes me long for the days of Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Heron said: The cream will rise to the top when those around us slowly fail and get caught out... 22 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: What does this even mean? I have no idea but I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: That doesn’t mean making negligent mistakes like leaving us with 3 midfielders and 1 and a 1/2 strikers for the final 5 months of the season. Negligent. ? Fuck off man. No wonder we get labelled as fickle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, maze said: Yes. Also, Chelsea are giving out insane contract lengths. Don’t believe they will be punish that hard tbh. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/12804577/man-city-charged-by-premier-league-for-numerous-alleged-breaches-of-financial-rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 It may well be a bit of an opportunity missed this season not splashing in January but that was never the plan. I'm not so confident in getting top 4 now given Liverpool will play 3 times before we play a game that isn't Man City (a). But we're in pole position to get some kind of European football which, after struggling against relegation for so much of last season, is a hell of a bonus when factoring in the bigger picture. Thinking "awh Bruno and Botman will fuck off then" is a bit overly pessimistic. Quasi masochistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, STM said: Ronaldo embarrassing himself on every thread on this forum is quite something, especially since I only managed it on the traitors thread. When he got married and lost his virginity he was chilled as fuck and disappeared, almost makes me long for the days of Mike Ashley. Think what you want. We had a great chance to build upon a very flattering brilliant first half of the season and we didn’t despite it being glaring obvious how poor we are in depth. I don’t want to negative but I just don’t see us having the same opportunity next season. We’ve made fantastic strides assisted hugely by Almiron’s purple patch but anyone defending that abysmal transfer window is the one embarrassing themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: Think what you want. We had a great chance to build upon a very flattering brilliant first half of the season and we didn’t despite it being glaring obvious how poor we are in depth. I don’t want to negative but I just don’t see us having the same opportunity next season. We’ve made fantastic strides assisted hugely by Almiron’s purple patch but anyone defending that abysmal transfer window is the one embarrassing themselves. And say we did finish 4th would we have the opportunity to finish 4th next season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo said: Think what you want. We had a great chance to build upon a very flattering brilliant first half of the season and we didn’t despite it being glaring obvious how poor we are in depth. I don’t want to negative but I just don’t see us having the same opportunity next season. We’ve made fantastic strides assisted hugely by Almiron’s purple patch but anyone defending that abysmal transfer window is the one embarrassing themselves. We did drop £40million on an attacking player, like. And we didn't sell anyone important. It was hardly abysmal. Would it have been abysmal if we'd kept Shelvey? I can't see him massively impacting any of the results we've had since he departed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I think we can still finish 4th tbh, Liverpool were less impressive than I thought, and they are still 6pts behind us. Spurs aren't convincing, and Chelsea are a car crash at the moment. Obviously they all have better squads than us, but we have some character, and we could easily put a string of wins together like we did earlier in the season, and last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Lots to play for and we're still in a good position. Final out the way, Bruno back, opportunity to tweak the attack of what has been a successful system for most of the season. We'll sort it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I absolute hate that Spurs are right near us despite being relentlessly dog shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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