The Prophet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, LFEE said: https://x.com/domscurr/status/1711101754178179085?s=46&t=DDNXUN2PoOBhgKmoF77zNw What an utterly pointless graphic. Dom must be bored already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: What an utterly pointless graphic. Dom must be bored already. 12-13 days until restart ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: 12-13 days until restart ? The Athletic will be firing out graphics all over the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 It does go to show that we've dropped 5 points late in games this season. I don't remember that happening much last season (in either direction apart from Forest away). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: It does go to show that we've dropped 5 points late in games this season. I don't remember that happening much last season (in either direction apart from Forest away). Liverpool away and Leeds away spring to mind. It's not really worth worrying about unless it becomes a trend though. Late goals are part and parcel of the drama we love, it just hurts to be on the receiving end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Aye as you say - too early to draw any conclusions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 @Kid Icarus the stats, research, analysis you've provided on the last page was really good reading and very helpful context to this season's story after 8 matches. I of course want and believe us to be able to get 4th again but will always maintain as long as we are consistently improving on & off the pitch and at the very least in Europa league and making good efforts at the domestic cups, I am supremely satisfied. Based on the 8 matches I've seen of us this season in the league and 3 cup matches, I fully see us trending towards top 5-6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellars Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 For me, this is still a transition season. We massively overperformed expectations last year. We still have a relatively thin squad where a couple of injuries in the wrong places can de-rail things. I want two things: (A) a competitive showing in the Champions League, and (B) a finish in the top 6 of the PL. I think that would reflect progress, even if we don't get back to the top 4. Adding European Competition is a ask of the players, especially given the intense style we play (which is hard on players). A lot of the players looked very fatigued at West Ham already (not surprising given the slate of fixtures we have had recently). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyDogs Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I said before season starts with the added run of games and if we go deep in these competitions that injuries and suspensions would stretch the squad depth. Top 6 and a good cup run in all of them would be great. If we can sneak 5th and get that new last CL spot would be even better I think around xmas time we will be able to gauge it better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, jonny1403 said: It's a bit of a stretch to assume all of those teams will continue to do that well - especially Villa and West Ham. Are Brighton even doing that much better than last year as well? It also ignores the fact that Man U are looking worse. Pretty much everyone said the same about us last season, how we couldn't keep it up, but we did. West Ham might fall away but Villa and Brighton will be up there. Man U are looking worse but Spurs are alot better and Liverpool also, so it balances out compared to last year and you could even argue there's now one extra team in with a shot at top 4/5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) Europe after Christas + European football next season is good for me. I think the current top 4 + Man U will take some beating. 65+ points can't be sniffed at. Btw I think expecting to finish in the top 6 is crazy. Edited October 9, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 We were good for it last season but we can't discount the underperformance of Spurs, Liverpool and for a while Man Utd, add to that Villa and Brighton both on the up and I think this season top 4 looks a lot tougher, even with personal progress. Some kind of European competition is probably necessary at this point to attract the players we need to progress further, but it's important to remember we're only 2 years into a long game project and we don't have the quality in depth the usual suspect have. There will be disappointing periods of the season but instead of turning on Howe and the team I hope we look further ahead at the actual target and don't act spoiled because of what we've already tasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Are coefficient points weighted by the competition you're in? Or can we still reasonably build ours up if we make Europa or Conference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mattoon said: We were good for it last season but we can't discount the underperformance of Spurs, Liverpool and for a while Man Utd, add to that Villa and Brighton both on the up and I think this season top 4 looks a lot tougher, even with personal progress. Some kind of European competition is probably necessary at this point to attract the players we need to progress further, but it's important to remember we're only 2 years into a long game project and we don't have the quality in depth the usual suspect have. There will be disappointing periods of the season but instead of turning on Howe and the team I hope we look further ahead at the actual target and don't act spoiled because of what we've already tasted. Every league season will have teams underperforming and overperforming by their unusual standards. If we hit 70+ points again we'll more likely than not be in the top 4-5 and the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 A few interesting bits from the BBC article. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67144491 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 So the best XG over one of the hardest sets of fixtures. Not bad at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Keep in mind the xG will be heavily skewed by the 0-8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Nine said: Keep in mind the xG will be heavily skewed by the 0-8. We only had an xg of about 3.5 in that match I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 09/10/2023 at 19:24, wormy said: Are coefficient points weighted by the competition you're in? Or can we still reasonably build ours up if we make Europa or Conference? https://kassiesa.net/uefa/calc.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Would take. Opta-Simulated Premier League Table After simulating the Premier League 2023-24 season 10,000 times following eight games played, we’re able to rank teams positionally. Here’s the Opta supercomputer results from those simulations: 1st: Manchester City 2nd: Arsenal 3rd: Liverpool 4th: Tottenham Hotspur 5th: Newcastle United 6th: Aston Villa 7th: Brighton & Hove Albion 8th: West Ham United 9th: Manchester United 10th: Chelsea 11th: Crystal Palace 12th: Fulham 13th: Brentford 14th: Wolverhampton Wanderers 15th: Nottingham Forest 16th: Everton 17th: Burnley 18th: Bournemouth 19th: Luton Town 20th: Sheffield United https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/10/premier-league-2023-24-relegation-predictions-october/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, SteV said: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/calc.html Cheers. So if we end up in the Conference League a good run would still do our coefficient the world of good. In that case I'd be more than content with any form of Europe to still keep us on the right track for future seasons as the squad continues to be improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, wormy said: Cheers. So if we end up in the Conference League a good run would still do our coefficient the world of good. In that case I'd be more than content with any form of Europe to still keep us on the right track for future seasons as the squad continues to be improved. Aye, it’s basically why Rangers would have been in Pot 3 had they got through the CL qualifiers this season. Off the back of reaching the Europa final a couple of years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Robertson knackered for a while for Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Shame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, SteV said: Robertson knackered for a while for Liverpool Bar City Liverpool will probably win all their games without Robertson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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