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1 hour ago, Elliottman said:


On a high after a gruelling 90 minutes where they came a whisker of taking them to extra time and/or winning it?! I’d be very surprised. Didn’t look like it wt full time.

 

Tough game though. But tonight is the only one that matters right now. 

Konsa was near tears in his post match interview. Could go either way but would have preferred the soul sapping loss after extra time.

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8 hours ago, alexf said:

Yeah I know we have beaten them away last year but realistically this is an unlikely result if we're honest, they have only lost once this season at home, just beaten a strong psg team in previous game so more likely to be on a high than crushed and disappointed, plus we will be missing our manager in the build up and in-game and have a day less to rest.

 

The palace match is the one to go all in on. 

 

It'll be a hard game for sure, but they are loose at the back. It probably accounts for the amount of draws they've had at home.

 

Leicester, Ipswich and West Ham have all bagged there, with the latter two claiming a point.

 

Still, I'd happily shake hands on a point if offered.

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We've been largely fantastic for about 4 months now, winning 19 of 24 or something like that. We're in a brilliant position but it's inevitable we're going to start dropping points, no team just wins each week. It's completely normal for the odd draw or loss to happen, we're long overdue a draw, last one was Liverpool 3-3. 

 

We're rightly full of confidence and shouldn't be scared of anyone but the law of averages suggests we're due a dip in results at some point. I still think we'll finish 4th but we'll still be looking over our shoulders in the second half of the Everton game. It'll be that tight imo

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1 hour ago, midds said:

We've been largely fantastic for about 4 months now, winning 19 of 24 or something like that. We're in a brilliant position but it's inevitable we're going to start dropping points, no team just wins each week. It's completely normal for the odd draw or loss to happen, we're long overdue a draw, last one was Liverpool 3-3. 

 

We're rightly full of confidence and shouldn't be scared of anyone but the law of averages suggests we're due a dip in results at some point. I still think we'll finish 4th but we'll still be looking over our shoulders in the second half of the Everton game. It'll be that tight imo

19 out of 24 is canny fucking impressive like

2 of them losses were Liverpool and Man City away as well

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1 minute ago, jack j said:

19 out of 24 is canny fucking impressive like

2 of them losses were Liverpool and Man City away as well

I still maintain we were only so bad against Fulham and Bournemouth due getting distracted by the cup run as well.

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1 minute ago, Geogaddi said:

I still maintain we were only so bad against Fulham and Bournemouth due getting distracted by the cup run as well.

Bournemouth were excellent to be fair. As good as I've seen this season that day.

Just realised the other game we've lost was the extra time v Brighton where we nearly won it in normal time anyway

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26 minutes ago, jack j said:

Bournemouth were excellent to be fair. As good as I've seen this season that day.

Just realised the other game we've lost was the extra time v Brighton where we nearly won it in normal time anyway

Yeah hats off to Bournemouth, they were class and had made me want them to achieve Europe of some sort at the expense of their competitors Fulham/Brighton etc 

 

Every season we seem to meet a non top 6 club who batters us, this season it was Bournemouth, last season I think Palace away, and the season before it was Villa away

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37 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Yeah hats off to Bournemouth, they were class and had made me want them to achieve Europe of some sort at the expense of their competitors Fulham/Brighton etc 

 

Every season we seem to meet a non top 6 club who batters us, this season it was Bournemouth, last season I think Palace away, and the season before it was Villa away

Bournemouth battered us last season away too tbh.

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12 minutes ago, McCormick said:


Love the optimism but I’d rip your hand off if offered 5th right now.

It's not optimism though, it's realism! 

We are arguably playing the best football in the country right now based on recent form and performances, bookies expect us to finish 3rd, 2nd is definitely possible. 

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4 hours ago, midds said:

We've been largely fantastic for about 4 months now, winning 19 of 24 or something like that. We're in a brilliant position but it's inevitable we're going to start dropping points, no team just wins each week. It's completely normal for the odd draw or loss to happen, we're long overdue a draw, last one was Liverpool 3-3. 

 

We're rightly full of confidence and shouldn't be scared of anyone but the law of averages suggests we're due a dip in results at some point. I still think we'll finish 4th but we'll still be looking over our shoulders in the second half of the Everton game. It'll be that tight imo

 

While this is true, even something like 3-2-2 would probably be enough. We won't win every game, but this is the case for our competitors aswell.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, mondonewc said:

It's not optimism though, it's realism! 

We are arguably playing the best football in the country right now based on recent form and performances, bookies expect us to finish 3rd, 2nd is definitely possible. 

 

I'm not sure that's correct in terms of best football. We're on a good run in terms of results but I think most would agree that we're not at our flying best, still room for improvement, but it doesn't really matter at this point as results are paramount. 

 

But looking at this run, West Ham away we just did what we needed to but West Ham were awful on the day and the game was a drab affair. 

 

Brentford was always going to be tough after all the celebrations but we did enough to eek out the victory with a flukey cross shot from Tonali. 

 

Leicester was against a team completely on its arse and we were quite sloppy in possession alot of the time and in a better day would have stuffed 5-6 past them, but again didn't matter just needed to win. 

 

Man U was bit ropey first half but once we pressed them more aggressively in the 2nd they completely disintegrated. 

 

This is the first game since Liverpool that I suspect we need to turn up properly you feel and hopefully we will.

 

But with the bench being abit thin recently the same 11 have been playing each game, Isak possibly nursing an injury, so the lads keep doing what is required without playing fantastic for a full 90mins and that is fine as long as we get the results. But suspect this game and Villa we will need to up our levels of want the wins. 

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1 minute ago, alexf said:

 

I'm not sure that's correct in terms of best football. We're on a good run in terms of results but I think most would agree that we're not at our flying best, still room for improvement, but it doesn't really matter at this point as results are paramount. 

 

But looking at this run, West Ham away we just did what we needed to but West Ham were awful on the day and the game was a drab affair. 

 

Brentford was always going to be tough after all the celebrations but we did enough to eek out the victory with a flukey cross shot from Tonali. 

 

Leicester was against a team completely on its arse and we were quite sloppy in possession alot of the time and in a better day would have stuffed 5-6 past them, but again didn't matter just needed to win. 

 

Man U was bit ropey first half but once we pressed them more aggressively in the 2nd they completely disintegrated. 

 

This is the first game since Liverpool that I suspect we need to turn up properly you feel and hopefully we will.

 

But with the bench being abit thin recently the same 11 have been playing each game, Isak possibly nursing an injury, so the lads keep doing what is required without playing fantastic for a full 90mins and that is fine as long as we get the results. But suspect this game and Villa we will need to up our levels of want the wins. 

Always will be room for improvement somewhere, but who would you suggest is playing better than us in the recent period (say last 6-8 weeks)?

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23 minutes ago, mondonewc said:

Always will be room for improvement somewhere, but who would you suggest is playing better than us in the recent period (say last 6-8 weeks)?

To be fair I don't watch enough of other teams to make an informed opinion. Perhaps you're right then if we've been the best, but that's promising as it feels to me we have levels of performance to go to above what we have seen recently. 

 

I think they are hiding that Isak is nursing an issue and just getting through games, rather than playing confidently and free like he was previously. Also as mentioned the same 11 have started the last 5/6? So naturally there is a fatigue factor and perhaps they are all cleverly managing their energy output so not to run out of energy for this run in. 

 

As we have seen, when the likes of Wilson and Longstaff etc have been coming off the bench the team naturally gets worse. So we need this 11 to keep going for the final games and see this through.

 

Having Gordon and to a lesser extent Willock back does help with the depth however. 

 

 

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