timeEd32 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, STM said: I was with you on the bernabeu but could you not have found two better than Marseille and Benfica? Nou camp, San siro, Allianz arena.... Ha, the first two have happened and I was avoiding corporate names. Makes it sound less magical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Marseille aren't even in an automatic CL spot as it stands. Odd choice indeed, they're in the Europa more often than they are the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 I just like the name, ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, STM said: I was with you on the bernabeu but could you not have found two better than Marseille and Benfica? We've been to both them too (albeit 19years (doesn't feel like it) in one case) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: We have all summer to talk ourselves into the Europa League if needed. For now there's no reason to not be dreaming about trips to the Bernabeu, Stade Velodrome, and the real Stadium of Light. It was more the idea that European football would be some form of hinderance because it isn't as financially beneficial as the Champions League. While The Europa doesn't carry as much financial clout, it's an absolutely depressing way to frame it as a football fan. Edited May 9, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Real Madrid, AC Milan, and Celtic, for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) I'll be devastated if we miss out on CL now, we'd have thrown it away. Been dreaming most of my conscious Newcastle supporting life of hearing the CL anthem at SJP. The ground from matchday 1 of the group stages would be insane, even more so for two legged knockouts should we get there. Edited May 9, 2023 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 You can see we're 1/8. We're odds on favourites for the next three games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, STM said: I was with you on the bernabeu but could you not have found two better than Marseille and Benfica? Nou camp, San siro, Allianz arena.... There is no Nou Camp next season. Barcelona are playing elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: I'll be devastated if we miss out on CL now, we'd have thrown it away. Been dreaming most of my conscious Newcastle supporting life of hearing the CL anthem at SJP. The ground from matchday 1 of the group stages would be insane, even more so for two legged knockouts should we get there. I agree but what's interesting is that when we previously got into the Champions League in 2002, the games were pretty poorly attended, typically about 40k attendance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Stifler said: There is no Nou Camp next season. Barcelona are playing elsewhere. Playing at the Estadio Freddie Mercury, the old Olympic stadium. ---- FC Astana and/or Qarabağ for me please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wullie said: I agree but what's interesting is that when we previously got into the Champions League in 2002, the games were pretty poorly attended, typically about 40k attendance. Think the starved nature of our success will yield sell outs in any competition we're in for the foreseeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Wullie said: 26 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: I'll be devastated if we miss out on CL now, we'd have thrown it away. Been dreaming most of my conscious Newcastle supporting life of hearing the CL anthem at SJP. The ground from matchday 1 of the group stages would be insane, even more so for two legged knockouts should we get there. I agree but what's interesting is that when we previously got into the Champions League in 2002, the games were pretty poorly attended, typically about 40k attendance. I'm sure it'll have been discussed on here before but why was this? Can barely imagine it now. I'd expect 52k in the building for even a dead rubber EL group stage game against Plovdiv tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Wullie said: I agree but what's interesting is that when we previously got into the Champions League in 2002, the games were pretty poorly attended, typically about 40k attendance. Always did find that interesting tbf, there any real reason for that? How were tickets sold and stuff? May have been a weird system. The glamour or pull of the CL I imagine was gone way up since then and like Kanji has said, we're in a situation now where home draws in the early rounds of cups now will sell out easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Always did find that interesting tbf, there any real reason for that? How were tickets sold and stuff? May have been a weird system. The glamour or pull of the CL I imagine was gone way up since then and like Kanji has said, we're in a situation now where home draws in the early rounds of cups now will sell out easily. Nah no weird system, I remember being able to ring up the box office after I had got in from school as a 13 year old or so and being able to buy tickets for Inter Milan & Barcelona after about 4pm on the day of the game. I did the same for the Uefa Cup semi against Marseille as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 If we get to CL and fail to get out of the group do you drop into europa league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, nufcjmc said: If we get to CL and fail to get out of the group do you drop into europa league? 3rd in the group does, 4th goes out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Bizarre. The prestige of it or interest in it not there? Just having a quick look at the home gates from .com match reports from 02-03; Feyenoord: 40,540, 1500 away fans Juventus: 48,570, <300 away fans Dynamo Kyiv: 40,185, 150 away fans Inter: 50,108, number of away fans not in report Bayer Leverkusen: 40,508, 200 away fans Barcelona: 51,833, 181 away fans Wasn't just us. Even now fans of clubs from countries that don't really have away fan culture like Spain would bring at least 2k to games in England now surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Always did find that interesting tbf, there any real reason for that? How were tickets sold and stuff? May have been a weird system. The glamour or pull of the CL I imagine was gone way up since then and like Kanji has said, we're in a situation now where home draws in the early rounds of cups now will sell out easily. For the group stage you had to commit to buying a ticket for all three games. So minimum outlay of about £100. Different times now though. Even if they did that again (obviously they wouldn’t), they’d still sell out no bother Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Disco said: Playing at the Estadio Freddie Mercury, the old Olympic stadium. ---- FC Astana and/or Qarabağ for me please. Went to Baku in 2018. Well up for a CL trip this time around! Aren't they usually pot 4 though, like we will be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, SteV said: For the group stage you had to commit to buying a ticket for all three games. So minimum outlay of about £100. Different times now though. Even if they did that again (obviously they wouldn’t), they’d still sell out no bother Aye. IIRC (may be wrong, I was only 12 ) for the Europa League under Pardew they sold tickets just like how they do for cup matches now, so ST holders only get the 19 league matches but get first dibs on their seat before member sale. Will probably just be that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Bizarre. The prestige of it or interest in it not there? Just having a quick look at the home gates from .com match reports from 02-03; Feyenoord: 40,540, 1500 away fans Juventus: 48,570, <300 away fans Dynamo Kyiv: 40,185, 150 away fans Inter: 50,108, number of away fans not in report Bayer Leverkusen: 40,508, 200 away fans Barcelona: 51,833, 181 away fans Wasn't just us. Even now fans of clubs from countries that don't really have away fan culture like Spain would bring at least 2k to games in England now surely? Bilbao brought a few for the UEFA cup and that was before those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Disco said: Playing at the Estadio Freddie Mercury, the old Olympic stadium. The one on Montjuic? Didn't know that. Did Espanyol used to play there or have I made that up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It was more the idea that European football would be some form of hinderance because it isn't as financially beneficial as the Champions League. While The Europa doesn't carry as much financial clout, it's an absolutely depressing way to frame it as a football fan. I do agree with you, but I'd also say those fans are the victims of UEFA/the business community twisting everything they can to make the Champion's League the only prestigious place to be. As of next season, you'll need to be worse than 25% of Premier League teams to qualify for the Europa League, and garner less attention and respect for getting to a final then CL teams do for making a quarter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Wullie said: The one on Montjuic? Didn't know that. Did Espanyol used to play there or have I made that up? Aye that one and aye, they did. It's not a bad reserve ground to call upon. Had a poke about a few years back. 4 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Went to Baku in 2018. Well up for a CL trip this time around! Aren't they usually pot 4 though, like we will be? Aye probably. Was just thinking of clubs that are miles away with big stadiums where I might be able to nab a ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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