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  1. 1. How likely are we to finish top four this season? 0 = nee chance, 5 = can’t call it, 10 = nailed on marra



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Remember, these are the cunts who wanted to take away the possibility of us having a good season and qualifying ahead of them, both by being massive supporters of the Super League, and also by trying to push through new qualification rules for the Champions League.

They wanted to rob us of this moment, and they wanted to make sure that they would be there forever, no matter if they had a bad season like this one.

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Small part of me would find it funny if we lose and Liverpool win about 10-0 on Sunday so they can moan about the Villa draw. 

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On 23/05/2023 at 19:35, 54 said:

So now that we have actually achieved top four and Champions League football, what goal/ moment was the moment you started to genuinely believe it was possible.

 

For me it's the Man United demolition just after our post League Cup slump.

I'm going to say 2 points in the season.

 

1. The win against Wolves at home to stop our slump.

 

2. Isak penalty vs Forest. Turned 1 point into 3 before the international break and next match was Man Utd at home. That was when the belief we could do it started again.

 

 

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10 hours ago, midds said:

Again, I was referring to the league placings. 

 

I'm obviously a bit out of the loop, as I remember the time Man U used to win or compete for the league and went deep in the CL every season. I clearly missed the memo about winning a spunky league Cup and finishing top 4 as now constituting success. The bar has dropped massively so it seems. 20 years ago that would have seen the Man U manager chased out of town, now it's celebrated and a huge success. Time wins   

 

Remember when manure were too big to play in the fa cup? Now the league cup is monumental. 

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What I quite like about the Liverpool reaction over the last few days is that I think most of them genuinely believed they were going to catch us up until the Brighton game. The meltdown has been quite glorious on twitter since  last night. 

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9 hours ago, oldtype said:

As a fanbase, we should probably look to them as an example of what not to become as the club grows: entitled children who throw a fit every time they miss the CL.

 

There are a lot of good teams with tons of resources now. With the possible exception of City, nobody is going to make it 100% of the time. 

Good luck :lol:

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RAWK forum is worth a read. Some are proposing a new British Superleague that involves handpicked 'non-cheating' teams (i.e. no man city and Newcastle) but does involve the likes of Celtic, Shamrock Rovers Glentoran, themselves (of course), Arsenal and Villa. 

 

In fairness, many of the Liverpool fans have called it out as a batshit crazy idea and suggested that it might be better to just regroup and try again next season. 

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Just now, Boey_Jarton said:

RAWK forum is worth a read. Some are proposing a new British Superleague that involves handpicked 'non-cheating' teams (i.e. no man city and Newcastle) but does involve the likes of Celtic, Shamrock Rovers Glentoran, themselves (of course), Arsenal and Villa. 

 

In fairness, many of the Liverpool fans have called it out as a batshit crazy idea and suggested that it might be better to just regroup and try again next season. 

Beyond a parody. They aren’t winning anymore so they want to take the ball away :lol:

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Many Liverpool fans have an interesting definition of cheating and fairness when it comes to football ownership. 

 

As an honest Newcastle fan, I will admit that it isn't in the spirit of football to have sovereign nations connected with football ownership.

 

That ship has sailed unfortunately and you can argue that the fairest system is one where any club, from around the world, is able to have unrestricted investment to help it grow. 

 

Their definition of fairness is that every club should lock into the wealth and revenues they have now (which is a function of historical success and whether the club has been run sensibly) and that should never be able to change for eternity. All clubs should respect their place in the pecking order and no investment should be allowed to change that. 

 

 

 

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Liverpool fans conveniently forget they were owned by the owners of the Football Pools in the days before the National Lottery. Everyone did the Pools back then, it was massive. All other clubs were owned by the local butcher, they had a massive advantage.

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