Coffee_Johnny Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 This update is for end of January, so doesn’t include today’s game. Basically despite disappointing run, win at Villa means we are only 3 points behind expected points return for a sixth place finish (difficulty of games and home away etc., over course of season, taken into account). We now have 1 point from required six to get in February. We’ll need to win all three (or two wins and a draw is pretty damn close) remaining February games to get back on track, but we don’t need to catch-up in just one month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Is there a trash can for threads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Superior Acuña said: A few hours ago I fancied us for 6th or 7th. Not anymore - it's not just that we've dropped 2 points in that race, but that was based on me thinking the Villa win was the start of us getting back to what we were earlier/last season. Clearly not. Probably 8-9th. Same here, thought we were gonna start picking up form and momentum, gutted tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Change it to top 7. Top four went weeks ago let’s be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 So is this right regarding european spots: If England gets the extra CL spot and Liverpool win the LC: 1st-5th get CL, 6-7th EL, 8th ECL If England gets the extra CL spot and Chelsea win the LC: 1st-5th get CL, 6th EL, 7th ECL If England does not get the extra CL spot and Liverpool win the LC: 1st-4th get CL, 5-6th EL, 7th ECL If England does not get the extra CL spot and Chelsea win the LC: 1st-4th get CL, 5th get EL, 6th ECL All the above assuming Chelsea do not finish in the top 8 of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, Beth said: So is this right regarding european spots: If England gets the extra CL spot and Liverpool win the LC: 1st-5th get CL, 6-7th EL, 8th ECL If England gets the extra CL spot and Chelsea win the LC: 1st-5th get CL, 6th EL, 7th ECL If England does not get the extra CL spot and Liverpool win the LC: 1st-4th get CL, 5-6th EL, 7th ECL If England does not get the extra CL spot and Chelsea win the LC: 1st-4th get CL, 5th get EL, 6th ECL All the above assuming Chelsea do not finish in the top 8 of course. I believe so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 8th always felt like our only realistic aim for me left over this season. To sneek into conference league and have some form of Europe next year. Even that is looking a challenge now however. We just can't seem to get any luck regarding players. Feels like every single time without fail if a player comes back we lose another. This time looks like possibly two in and two out with Isak and Gordon for Barnes and Wilson. Not to mention the looming Bruno suspension. I just don't see us going on a sustained run unless we get legs back into midfield. Our back 4 and mid 3 have to be some of the slowest in the league and it is reeking havoc on our ability to play the way Howe wants. He can mitigate this slightly if he tweaked tactics and by bringing Tino back into the back 4 but I just don't see us putting the necessary results together to finish any higher than 8th at best. Edited February 3 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I was hoping we could sneak 5th but no chance now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, duo said: I was hoping we could sneak 5th but no chance now I think 6th is the very best we can hope for now, but 7th-8th is looking likely. I wouldn't mind being in the conference league, but use it as a run out for fringe players unless we get to the quarter finals or beyond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 so highest imo we can finish is 6th and even for that we need to better than all of WHU, Brighton, Man Utd and Chelsea simple as that. good fucking luck with that as we have no consistency at all given we follow up a great Villa win with a Luton draw. we should have gone on a run beating Villa, Luton get result at Forest away then rip apart Bournemouth before going into some crunch games with Arsenal, Chelsea, Wolves in about 3-4 weeks time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I understand why it's different, but if someone had said 4 points from Villa away and Luton at home, you'd still think of that as a brilliant return. No team with the injury woes we've had this season would make top 4, but despite everything I think I'd count top 7 as a successful season in the circumstances, albeit still an unbelievably frustrating one with some classic moments scattered about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Beth said: So is this right regarding european spots: If England gets the extra CL spot and Liverpool win the LC: 1st-5th get CL, 6-7th EL, 8th ECL If England gets the extra CL spot and Chelsea win the LC: 1st-5th get CL, 6th EL, 7th ECL If England does not get the extra CL spot and Liverpool win the LC: 1st-4th get CL, 5-6th EL, 7th ECL If England does not get the extra CL spot and Chelsea win the LC: 1st-4th get CL, 5th get EL, 6th ECL All the above assuming Chelsea do not finish in the top 8 of course. Depends on the FA Cup too, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Top 8 will be a real achievement with our current midfield. Not a dig at them, it’s just not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 30 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Depends on the FA Cup too, right? Yes, but it's almost certain the winner of that will be one of the top six anyway. Looks like ultimately the Tonali fiasco may be the deciding factor in missing out on europe. Edited February 3 by Beth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 25 minutes ago, Beth said: Yes, but it's almost certain the winner of that will be one of the top six anyway. Looks like ultimately the Tonali fiasco may be the deciding factor in missing out on europe. To be fair, even taking account of an unexpected season long ban for a big signing, the catastrophic amount of injuries we have had will be the determining factor for a lower than a realistically expected finishing position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: To be fair, even taking account of an unexpected season long ban for a big signing, the catastrophic amount of injuries we have had will be the determining factor for a lower than a realistically expected finishing position. We've had a massively depleted squad for three months now. Over-playing the same 11 every game was always going to catch up eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa5773 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Well, I dont think the owner would be pleased with other than top 6 finish and/or a trophy this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, aa5773 said: Well, I dont think the owner would be pleased with other than top 6 finish and/or a trophy this season. I dont get this. Our squad is perhaps just about top 6-7 material. But nor with half the team out. Winning a trophy is a big ask anyway. Think they knew we will drop a bit and bounce back next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Lets be honest, the way this season has gone, Tonali would have got a season ending injury anyway if he hadn’t got banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Liverpool dropping three points yesterday was massive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 7-8-9 for me this season. Hopefully it’s more like 5-7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Same for me. Realistically 7th to 9th with fingers crossed for above that as outside chance(5th being ceiling) If I had to plump for a finishing position, then I would say 8th look’s about favourite for me. Think this gets put to bed for a season or two (as in top four). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Aim for 6th, still. Very least we should be targeting is finishing above West Ham and Brighton which I think we will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Whatever gets us into Europe, and by that I mean the Conference league will be considered a success in my books. Playing with an almost first 11 of players out for half a season would cripple any club. CL football was fantastic while it lasted, even if it didn't work out, but it's wetted my appetite for any form of European contest now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 10 minutes ago, TRon said: Whatever gets us into Europe, and by that I mean the Conference league will be considered a success in my books. Playing with an almost first 11 of players out for half a season would cripple any club. CL football was fantastic while it lasted, even if it didn't work out, but it's wetted my appetite for any form of European contest now. Of course it isn't the money and exposure of the Champions League, but I've had people say to me a lot this year "Why are you so arsed, it's only the Conference League". It's a fucking trophy, a European trophy FFS. Not only that, it's not really meant to have big, rich clubs in it, so we've got a really good chance of winning it, as has any English side in it. If you were in it next season, I'd absolutely lump on you to win it, as did I on us, and as did I think about doing (but errr, forget) for West Ham last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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