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Can't see City winning the CL at all.

 

Man U might jam their way through the Europa though. Doubt it. Maybe Spurs might.

 

Really wanted Villa in the play-offs. This run and the Duran sale will give them a big PSR boost. Good chance of making the QFs. This season I can't see them finishing top 5 (not discounting them) but European football is still on. Next season they will be very serious imo. They should be able to invest well.

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23 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Unfortunately.

Them keeping one of the 6 out the CL for another season might help gradually bring us all closer together.

 

I don't see a world where we qualify for the CL next season and are able to qualify for the CL again the following season. We aren't allowed to build a squad to facilitate that. So best to rotate the CL spots as wide as possible.

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I see your point but I don’t think we’ll ever really catch up (financially) to the likes of Man Utd, City, Arsenal and Liverpool (even Chelsea but the rules are adversely affecting them too) so the best we can expect in the near future is to always be the team that capitalizes on one or more of them having a poor season and grab CL that way. I see Villa and ourselves (and Spurs) in competition for that spot and the less competition for us the better. 

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32 minutes ago, McCormick said:

I see your point but I don’t think we’ll ever really catch up (financially) to the likes of Man Utd, City, Arsenal and Liverpool (even Chelsea but the rules are adversely affecting them too) so the best we can expect in the near future is to always be the team that capitalizes on one or more of them having a poor season and grab CL that way. I see Villa and ourselves (and Spurs) in competition for that spot and the less competition for us the better. 

Spurs have the finances to compete. Levy just doesn't want too. Spurs revenue is impressIve.

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Oh definitely, but once Son leaves, retires etc. I don’t see them being able to justify larger sponsorship revenues; you either need a global megastar or sustained success and I don’t see them getting those anytime soon.

 

Coupled with the fact that their owners aren’t as willing as ours to take on losses year on year; I see them as very catchable.

 

 

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On 30/01/2025 at 14:07, The College Dropout said:

Spurs have the finances to compete. Levy just doesn't want too. Spurs revenue is impressIve.

In the medium term they have big stadium debts to pay off, they paid 45m in interest last year, plus whatever capital repayments they had. They have ran up real world losses the last few years so I guess they don’t have the cash (in PSR land they are ok as it’s all excluded from the calcs, but not sure they have real money to buy players). Arsenal went through a similar phase post Emirates. Once that debt is down they’ll be very strong financially 

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On 30/01/2025 at 14:07, The College Dropout said:

Spurs have the finances to compete. Levy just doesn't want too. Spurs revenue is impressIve.

Tottenham Hotspur has PSR headroom, but that's distinct from their overall financial situation. Their recent accounts showed a loss above £200 million, largely due to stadium repayments, which doesn't affect their PSR. This creates a misconception about their financial health.

 

Our owners are prepared to utilize our full PSR headroom, even if it means operating at a loss.

 

Some clubs, including Tottenham, cannot or will not take that approach. You only have to look at Manchester United to see why.

This explains why many teams in the bottom half of the league are content with the £105 million, three-year rolling loss limit.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Forest looking very good for top 4 now with Pool, Arse, Forest, City. Between us, Chelsea, Bourn and Villa for 5th.

 

 

I would still be disappointed if we don't overhaul Forest. They have to come to our place yet.

 

We want a CL spot, if we are going to miss out, I don't want it to be to the likes of Forest or Bournemouth.

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10 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

In the medium term they have big stadium debts to pay off, they paid 45m in interest last year, plus whatever capital repayments they had. They have ran up real world losses the last few years so I guess they don’t have the cash (in PSR land they are ok as it’s all excluded from the calcs, but not sure they have real money to buy players). Arsenal went through a similar phase post Emirates. Once that debt is down they’ll be very strong financially 

Exactly,  too much attention is put to PSR headroom, that people forget the overall accounts of the football club. Not every club has owners like us who are willing to bank roll the project. 

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38 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Forest looking very good for top 4 now with Pool, Arse, Forest, City. Between us, Chelsea, Bourn and Villa for 5th.

 

Can see city pulling clear of Forest bit then it's anyone's game for 4th and 5th.

 

Top 8 in danger of pulling away a little now but Europe comes into play for a couple of clubs so picture could change.

 

4th or 5th is there for the taking, right now I'd be disappointed with anything below 6th

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