astraguy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 9 minutes ago, Yorkie said: We can still finish 6th even if we lose tonight, but match Chelsea's results. ah yea we have a better g/d then man utd on the final day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, STM said: Spot on. I made a long post at the start of the year along the lines of "there's always 2 of the big six in crisis". You can absolutely rely on one or two imploding, simply because 2 of the teams can't be in the top 4, therefore by extention are deemed to be failing (Spurs can get away with a couple of top 6 finishes). This year its crisis city centre for Man United, Chelsea (until late), last year it was Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs for parts of the season. You'd put good money on Liverpool dropping back next year, Villa having to deal with extra work load, will Spurs kick on? I doubt it. The only thing I can say with some certainty is that Arsenal and City will be 1 and 2... and that Chelsea will be much improved. In short, don't worry about what other clubs are up to, they will always cut each others throats. This is also why people need to not freak out in seasons we don't qualify for the CL. If you add us and Villa to the mix then every season half of the clubs who feel like they are CL caliber will not qualify. And half of those that miss out will miss out on Europe altogether. (pending cup winners and extra Euro places of course) It's a different world now and the only way you can safely assume a Champions League place is if you are a genuine title challenger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: This is also why people need to not freak out in seasons we don't qualify for the CL. If you add us and Villa to the mix then every season half of the clubs who feel like they are CL caliber will not qualify. And half of those that miss out will miss out on Europe altogether. (pending cup winners and extra Euro places of course) It's a different world now and the only way you can safely assume a Champions League place is if you are a genuine title challenger. Happy to ‘beef-up’ on lesser European competitions and wait until we are Champions for another pop at Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 We’ll just win the Europa League next season and get the Champions League spot that way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, andyc35i said: We’ll just win the Europa League next season and get the Champions League spot that way Winning a trophy you say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 So win our 2 games and we get 6th and Europa. Anything less and it's possible we end up 7th and depending on who wins the cup in the Conférence or 8th and SFA. Pretty crucial that we don’t fuck this up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Tonight isn't going our way so far. Have a feeling it'll be done and dusted either way at 10pm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 31 minutes ago, toon25 said: Tonight isn't going our way so far. Have a feeling it'll be done and dusted either way at 10pm Well one half still to go but as it stands the EL is just about gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Europe is done, man. Fucking thrown it away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Extremely disappointing result obviously. A real shame after the flow we were in pre-Brighton that it's ended like this. 7th or 8th looking very likely now, which is still an achievement considering the difficulties of this season, but no less raw and disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Europa Conference would still be good like - I certainly won't be turning my nose up at it - but fuck me we threw it away. A sorry indictment of our season when we saw these last 3 games (having given ourselves a cracking chance of EL) and doubted whether we'd be able to see it through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Not confident of 7th now. Too many times have we played like a bunch of chumps away from home this season, it's an issue Howe must sort next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) Pointed our the poor away form already in october on here, but was told by several that it didn't have any basis, because we just happened to have done poorly in the same away fixtures the season before. But, last season we won nearly every remaining away fixture, so it was just a bad comparison that had nothing to do with this season and our away form. In the end it was the away form that screwed us (injuries aside), which was what me and some others feared at the beginning. Edited May 15 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Would have loved Europa but honestly couldn't give a fuck about conference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I think we all got carried away by beating Burnley and Sheffield so easily despite them being two of the worst teams to ever play in this league , the last two games along with the Palace one before that have shown where we are really at and it's certainly not good enough for the top 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Would have loved Europa but honestly couldn't give a fuck about conference This. If we get ECL next season we have no chance of challenging for the CL places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Give me ECL now. We’ll work our way back to the big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Beth said: This. If we get ECL next season we have no chance of challenging for the CL places. Villa did it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 10 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Would have loved Europa but honestly couldn't give a fuck about conference Would take the Conference any day of the week after today, but I won't complain if we don't get it. Just not enough quality in the squad at the end of the day, Man U and Chelsea's depth counted in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Not sure why people turn their nose up at conference. It's a winnable trophy where you don't even need to play a strong team until later on. Would be ideal for the likes of Miley if he doesn't go on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Would have loved Europa but honestly couldn't give a fuck about conference Same, don't think playing in the conference league will attract many players This season the group stages was made up of England (Aston Villa) Scotland (Aberdeen) France (Lille) Italy (Fiorentina) Germany (Frankfurt) Holland (AZ) Belgium x2 (Brugge & Genk) Switzerland Turkey x2 (Besiktas & Fenerbahce) Bulgaria Finland Denmark Norway Iceland Faroe Islands Hungary Switzerland Poland Slovakia x2 Slovenia Serbia Israel Ukraine Czech Rep Croatia Kazakhstan Kosovo Bosnia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Andy said: Not sure why people turn their nose up at conference. It's a winnable trophy where you don't even need to play a strong team until later on. Would be ideal for the likes of Miley if he doesn't go on loan. Yup, it's just about the perfect competition for the state of our current squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Would take Conference but its just so deflating when we had Europa in our hands. Fucked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 If we go into the ECL, do we go straight into groups or is there a qualifying round? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Same, don't think playing in the conference league will attract many players This season the group stages was made up of We got Bruno, Isak and Trippier with nothing. Would love Conference. Trophy looks class, more games to watch, and the way Roma and West Ham celebrated it shows how much they care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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