Skeletor Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Didn't he do that interview where he basically said the criticism was fair whilst the rest of the fannies were lying their arses off saying it wasn't Southgate's shit tactics that were to blame for us being negative and performing so poorly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 It's so strange when you consider the left hand side was the biggest problem for England and in Gordon you had the best LW of the league available and he only got 4 mins in a fairly meaningless game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 6 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: It's so strange when you consider the left hand side was the biggest problem for England and in Gordon you had the best LW of the league available and he only got 4 mins in a fairly meaningless game Straight up negligence from Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 35 minutes ago, Kilcline said: Straight up negligence from Southgate. Or spite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 22 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Or spite Aye, "the interview" will be a potentially interesting footnote in the inevitable biography of Southgate's reign that we'll see in a year or two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Kilcline said: Straight up negligence from Southgate. Cant wait for him to get the Man U job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 12 minutes ago, Kilcline said: Aye, "the interview" will be a potentially interesting footnote in the inevitable biography of Southgate's reign that we'll see in a year or two TWE for that tome 🤪 Preface written by James Milner, no doubt 🙈 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) Didn't wor Anthony come back for pre-season training from the U-21s Euros earlier than expected after playing and winning the tournament? Wonder if he'll come back soon before the other international players seeing Southgate used him for fuck all and knowing the lad himself is a workhose and has that psychology of player who doesn't like to stop and put his feet up? Edited July 15 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, nufcjb said: Didn't wor Anthony come back for pre-season training from the U-21s Euros earlier than expected after playing and winning the tournament? Wonder if he'll come back soon before the other international players seeing Southgate used him for fuck all and knowing the lad himself is a workhose and has that psychology of player who doesn't like to stop and put his feet up? I’d rather he miss the Japan tour TBH. Come back after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: I’d rather he miss the Japan tour TBH. Come back after that. He doesn't need to play. Just get him around players and coaches that love him for his confidence, let him get that rotten month he's had with England out of the system. Like someone said earlier, hopefully he's hungry and motivated and not let the Euro fiasco knock him down. Trips can stay home all he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 A nice rest for him, training with legit top talent which he would’ve learnt from and be motivated to improve. Now a weeks holiday and back to our squad to hit ground running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I don’t think it was personal with Southgate, more that if Gordon was given 30 mins it could make calls for his inclusion to be deafening - Southgate wanted to play both Bellingham and Foden and didn’t want a LW, so avoided it. Had Grealish been in the squad with his greater PR I think Southgate’s hand would have been forced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the Grid Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I'm wondering now if maybe his attitude to not wanting fitness staff getting involved in his routines had any part to play? Possibly fidnt go down too well if it was forced upon him and he didn't align with the England view? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, On the Grid said: I'm wondering now if maybe his attitude to not wanting fitness staff getting involved in his routines had any part to play? Possibly fidnt go down too well if it was forced upon him and he didn't align with the England view? Yeah I had wondered that. Very open-minded to theories like this but ultimately there's a good chance Southgate is just a shit manager who couldn't see past using the same 11 and predetermined subs over and over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 hours ago, Kilcline said: Straight up negligence from Southgate. This. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Maybe he just already had too much of a problem thinking about how to accommodate Foden and Bellingham, he couldn’t fathom Gordon as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, On the Grid said: I'm wondering now if maybe his attitude to not wanting fitness staff getting involved in his routines had any part to play? Possibly fidnt go down too well if it was forced upon him and he didn't align with the England view? Unless he has just implemented his fitness routine last season, I would think the England set up would already have been aware of this from him playing with the U21s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) I had forgotten what it’s like having England players. If they play you’re worried they are injured or they are going to be mentally impacted by losing before the season starts. if they don’t play you’re worried they are going to be mentally impacted by not being picked or injured falling off their bike. i can understand why Ferguson was always so annoyed. Edited July 15 by FLUMPO235 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I'm 100% behind the favourites tag and his post match honesty didn't fit into the seige mentality, that wouldn't have gone down well at all. His brief cameo was nothing but positive and should have earned him more minutes along side Palmer but Palmer didn't go against the grain in public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, On the Grid said: I'm wondering now if maybe his attitude to not wanting fitness staff getting involved in his routines had any part to play? Possibly fidnt go down too well if it was forced upon him and he didn't align with the England view? this true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 apparently lineker had a couple of words with him after the game, to gee him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 32 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Maybe he just already had too much of a problem thinking about how to accommodate Foden and Bellingham, he couldn’t fathom Gordon as well. Probably this and any brain cells he had available to navigate that thought process were frazzled when he tried the TAA thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 34 minutes ago, huss9 said: this true? It's from his Overlap interview. He has a pretty unconventional approach to fitness e.g. almost zero strength training and emphasizing his own stretching methods, which Howe and co. support his decision on. But maybe more conservative managers would not be impressed by. 18 minutes ago, huss9 said: apparently lineker had a couple of words with him after the game, to gee him up. Where's this from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Lineker mentioned it on Rest is Football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Really dont mind southgate threw him in the doghouse since I'm not an England fan. Might inspire an AG revenge tour from now until the WC, and he could use the extra rest banked up before he starts Eddie-ball again for the next 10 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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