Ben Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: I’m absolutely sure this current government will get that appointment right Rees Mogg ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I think everyone's missing the point on what we (and 19 others) voted for recently. The vote that just happened didn't introduce any new rules. It was a vote to proceed with determining a new system and voting on it by June. It was essentially a vote against the current system and the strict form of punishment. Our goal will be to qualify for one of the three European competitions each season, which means we're going to be required to meet those regulations. A system that mirrors those rules, possibly with some more leeway, and does away with points deductions as its initial and primary form of punishment would be a vast improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Parliament v those opposing football regulating. What a shower of cunts that'll be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Breaking news is Forest docked four points. Their defence is that they would have been okay if they had firesaled Brennan Johnson, but they waited to get more money in for him. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/18/nottingham-forest-docked-four-points-premier-league-financial-rules-breach-profitability-and-sustainability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Stottie said: Breaking news is Forest docked four points. Their defence is that they would have been okay if they had firesaled Brennan Johnson, but they waited to get more money in for him. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/18/nottingham-forest-docked-four-points-premier-league-financial-rules-breach-profitability-and-sustainability I don't care for FFP/PSR and other such protectionist racket but that's a terrible defence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: I don't care for FFP/PSR and other such protectionist racket but that's a terrible defence I agree with there defence tbh. Its about profit and sustainablity, are they a more sustainable club because they get 10m less 2 months earlier for their star player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Stottie said: Breaking news is Forest docked four points. Their defence is that they would have been okay if they had firesaled Brennan Johnson, but they waited to get more money in for him. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/18/nottingham-forest-docked-four-points-premier-league-financial-rules-breach-profitability-and-sustainability It'll be knocked down to two on appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Stottie said: Breaking news is Forest docked four points. Their defence is that they would have been okay if they had firesaled Brennan Johnson, but they waited to get more money in for him. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/18/nottingham-forest-docked-four-points-premier-league-financial-rules-breach-profitability-and-sustainability i.e they're now more financially secure for selling their asset on their terms. Edited March 18 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Forest now docked now. League is a total joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 20 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I think everyone's missing the point on what we (and 19 others) voted for recently. The vote that just happened didn't introduce any new rules. It was a vote to proceed with determining a new system and voting on it by June. It was essentially a vote against the current system and the strict form of punishment. Our goal will be to qualify for one of the three European competitions each season, which means we're going to be required to meet those regulations. A system that mirrors those rules, possibly with some more leeway, and does away with points deductions as its initial and primary form of punishment would be a vast improvement. Didn't know that. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 That last minute equaliser for Luton against forest at the weekend looking even better now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, madras said: It'll be knocked down to two on appeal. Imagine they stay up by a point after the season because of this. PL clubs really fucked this up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Meanwhile, on Moss Side.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Its hard to sympathize with Forest after them buying in two dozen players. This rule putting an effective sell-by deadline on players though will simply force down prices and make this thing an even bigger racket than it is already. Spurs getting Johnson for say 30m not the 47m they paid just because Forest have to jump through an arbitrary hoop by a time set midway through a transfer window, not the end of the window, would not make football fairer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 All teams below the “real top six” need to be docked at least ten points at the start of every season and then if they end up going on a quality run of form, dock another ten points for being try-hards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Great news if this relegates them. Get into the bastards between now and the summer, cause chaos to the point we're not sure who'll be in the PL come the start of the season and make them look like right arseholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 7 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Forest now docked now. League is a total joke Which will probably be the same for Everton, meaning it will cover the original ten points deduction. What a fucking shambles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) Zero sympathy for forest. What if Johnson had got injured etc in the meantime, failed medical etc would've that been their next excuse. Edited March 18 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Magpie said: Meanwhile, on Moss Side.... Again, over a hundred charges being contested by one of the best funded legal departments in the world. It'll take a hell of a lot longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Again, over a hundred charges being contested by one of the best funded legal departments in the world. It'll take a hell of a lot longer. They've been hanging over them for years!!! Should be way more advanced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 18 minutes ago, Stottie said: Its hard to sympathize with Forest after them buying in two dozen players. This rule putting an effective sell-by deadline on players though will simply force down prices and make this thing an even bigger racket than it is already. Spurs getting Johnson for say 30m not the 47m they paid just because Forest have to jump through an arbitrary hoop by a time set midway through a transfer window, not the end of the window, would not make football fairer. Isn’t this exactly what we done to Everton with Gordon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, TRC said: I agree with there defence tbh. Its about profit and sustainablity, are they a more sustainable club because they get 10m less 2 months earlier for their star player? That's my point, we know it's not really about sustainability but within the rules they broke them, it's as simple as that They should have bought a player or two less if they weren't confident of staying within their limits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 26 minutes ago, TRC said: I agree with there defence tbh. Its about profit and sustainablity, are they a more sustainable club because they get 10m less 2 months earlier for their star player? They could have sold someone else too. I know but with these things you do have to have cut off points at some point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Magpie said: They've been hanging over them for years!!! Should be way more advanced. It's 115 charges, spanning a nine year period. A hearing this year seems about right, it'll last months too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) They undoubtedly broke the rules, but the idea this has anything to do with sustainability is laughable. Edited March 18 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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